Citizenship and the War.

[Sarge2155 4,592]

22 minutes ago, NigeriaorBust said:

  I was in high school when they last were drafting people into service.  It was also the war they had conscious objectors as a role  They let those people stay in the US and gave them positions .but not always the nicest one ( I know a man that had to open bags of body pieces and try to figure out which ones belonged together to send to a family because there was no DNA testing then )  That being said my 40th college reunion recently occurred and there have been a few wars since the one I remember with no draft.  Most people are proud enough of this country to want to serve  and I would rather be protected by people of that mindset than someone who isn't .  

Ahhh you are showing your age lol!

[kris&me 572]

U.S. military draft ends, Jan. 27, 1973. On the day in 1973, as the Vietnam War drew to a close, the Selective Service announced that there would be no further draft calls.

However the following is part of the oath ceremony so if you don't agree with it ,  don't apply to be  a citizen

 

When taking the Oath, the new citizen promises to fulfill the following duties:

• Support and defend the U.S. Constitution and the laws of the United States against its enemies.
• Give up allegiance to any other nation or sovereign, and renounce hereditary or noble titles, if any.
• Provide military or civilian service when called upon by the government to do so.

[PWB 213]

If you are unwilling to fight for this country in a time of need then stay home.  Sorry but there is a price we all pay, and some have paid that price already, to be citizen of this Great Country.   

[implife 318]

13 hours ago, craftercool said:

Thanks in advance for any comments/thoughts on this.

It's difficult to take your questions seriously, but I'll try.

1) A general draft is unlikely

2) If you don't want to defend your country, don't become its citizen 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Who likes war?

Many people worship the military in the US. 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

17 minutes ago, PWB said:

If you are unwilling to fight for this country in a time of need then stay home.  Sorry but there is a price we all pay, and some have paid that price already, to be citizen of this Great Country.   

Most wars that the US fights are offensive and imperialistic in nature and they're only fought for the profits of defense companies. The Iraq war people were outright lied into. 

Edited January 10, 2020 by Orangesapples

[Sarge2155 4,592]

2 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

Many people worship the military in the US. 

I think worship is the wrong word, more like immensely proud, but I get your drift!

[PRC Rabbit 40]

To quote our liar in chief  president, "It's all a hoax". 

[ILikeBread 43]

13 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

First off if you are not willing to join up and serve even as a conscientious objector then why did you decide for U.S. Citizenship, and why are you here? 

 

I don't understand that reasoning.

 

Bunch of natural born US citizens that are not willing to serve and nobody asks them why they're here...

[Crazy Cat 42,414]

Some of you need to take your opinions to the current events forum.

[craftercool 7]

7 hours ago, Sarge2155 said:

As a proud veteran and retiree of the US Armed Forces you all know how I would answer the OP questions, so I'll just leave it at that so I won't get into trouble with the Admin here... I will say what nerve!!!!!!😡

 

 You made your point, sir. I won't say "sorry" for not thinking like you do. 

[carmel34 3,657]

11 hours ago, craftercool said:

 

I became a permanent resident while had years of being a visa holder (through marriage), now seeking for citizenship.

LPRs can be drafted too, not just citizens. You could be drafted theoretically if WW3 happened tomorrow and 30-year olds were drafted.  My dad was drafted during the Korean War, he was an LPR in the US, with his American wife (my mom), three small children, and when drafted he asked if he could use his pharmacy training in some non-combat medical role instead of front line infantry, they said no.  So he said no thanks and moved his family to Canada where he was a citizen and never returned.  I was born a few years later as a dual citizen in Canada.  So serving in the US military is a choice if it ever comes to that.  You can always go back to Mexico if you get drafted which is unlikely, and leave the US, whether you are an LPR or as a citizen it could still happen, so don't worry you will always have that choice to leave if you want to.

[Unlockable 7,315]

*** Closing thread as it has ran its course and to prevent it from deteriorating. Everyone has shared their opinions and the OP has received as much advice as they can at this point.

 

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