Stressing over Fiance visa outcome

[JeanneAdil 6,510]

4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

So how could he have an engagement?

not something that was done by a government offical

[JeanneAdil 6,510]

14 minutes ago, AdrianSolorzano said:

Yes, she wore different dresses.

 

I understand, if denied I have no choice bur to go the spouse visa.

Are you sure you did not sign any contract?

and promise a dowery?

[JeanneAdil 6,510]

I hope she interviews with an American 

but they are also suppose to follow the norms in Morocco  

so,  who knows what will happen

will be easy to prove you met in 2009 as you attended the same school

your ages are about the same giving that a fair chance

but the party??? and all????

and the religion???

a Muslim man is allowed to marry Jewish or Christain woman

not the same the other way around

if she is denied,  be prepared for marriage 

if denied a K1 there intent to immigrate here so she would also be denied  a tourist visa 

 

Several of us married in Morocco and can walk you thru the process if you need further help there

just know the man needs to settle on a dowery to the woman (not her parents but to her)

[Boiler 45,525]

Ao to sum up he did everything apart from getting the piece of paper saying they are married.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

OP in all seriousness you need to cobble up a Plan B.  You have already prepared and sent your petition in and there is no undoing that.  Hope for the best, plan for the worst.
Next step:  Prepare to marry this girl and go through the CR1 process.  You know what you have to do to do it (at least I am assuming so).  Most of what you need to do can be set up and ready to go from the US.

My wife’s family wasn’t about to let us spend a bit of time together before we got married, so I went all in and did it the hard way.  

[Nitas_man 3,100]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Ao to sum up he did everything apart from getting the piece of paper saying they are married.

Seems so.  
 

 

@missileman 

[SalishSea 17,834]

3 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

My wife’s family wasn’t about to let us spend a bit of time together before we got married, so I went all in and did it the hard way.  

I always thought your wife was an overseas worker in KSA!  Learn something new every day 🙂

[Nitas_man 3,100]

6 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

I always thought your wife was an overseas worker in KSA!  Learn something new every day 🙂

Uhuh we were married before I went to work in KSA

[Rob Beri 68]

1 hour ago, AdrianSolorzano said:

Yeah, that is what I am really concerned about.

It is factual, based on the discussion of this topic, that the embassy in Morocco is a tougher one. However, I would not be as worried about the entire engagement ceremony. Especially, if the engagement ceremony is a part of the custom/ culture of your fiancee. The counselor/ officer most likely is aware of the customs/ traditions of the people he/ she is interviewing. My take on this entire discussion, nonetheless. I might be wrong. 

Edited January 4, 2020 by Rob Beri

[Ryan H 3,812]

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[Dashinka 24,507]

7 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

I hope she interviews with an American 

but they are also suppose to follow the norms in Morocco  

so,  who knows what will happen

will be easy to prove you met in 2009 as you attended the same school

your ages are about the same giving that a fair chance

but the party??? and all????

and the religion???

a Muslim man is allowed to marry Jewish or Christain woman

not the same the other way around

if she is denied,  be prepared for marriage 

if denied a K1 there intent to immigrate here so she would also be denied  a tourist visa 

 

Several of us married in Morocco and can walk you thru the process if you need further help there

just know the man needs to settle on a dowery to the woman (not her parents but to her)

Just curious, as you mentioned a couple of times, it is not possible for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim male in Morocco, so if the CO is to follow cultural norms, would they not see that this ceremony is not a wedding?

[JeanneAdil 6,510]

11 hours ago, Rob Beri said:

It is factual, based on the discussion of this topic, that the embassy in Morocco is a tougher one. However, I would not be as worried about the entire engagement ceremony. Especially, if the engagement ceremony is a part of the custom/ culture of your fiancee. The counselor/ officer most likely is aware of the customs/ traditions of the people he/ she is interviewing. My take on this entire discussion, nonetheless. I might be wrong. 

it isn't

couples are not allowed to date and be seen in public till married

and engagement parties are not normal and both sexes would not be allowed to sit in

i was given a party ahead of marriage (no men allowed)

and no henna

no dates and milk

no fancy dresses 

just women with a lot of food 

[JeanneAdil 6,510]

4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Just curious, as you mentioned a couple of times, it is not possible for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim male in Morocco, so if the CO is to follow cultural norms, would they not see that this ceremony is not a wedding?

no,   with the henna,  the dates and milk 1st meal after marriage and both sexes at this affair , it would be viewed as a marriage celebration after the signing of the contract

there is no wedding as we know it

only a contract

and then a day or days (he had 2) of parties

engagement parties are not the norm in Morocco

 

to the OP ,  sign the contract and get it registered in Rabat

you are married

 

u just need to have the document now to prove you converted

Edited January 4, 2020 by JeanneAdil

[Boiler 45,525]

5 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Just curious, as you mentioned a couple of times, it is not possible for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim male in Morocco, so if the CO is to follow cultural norms, would they not see that this ceremony is not a wedding?

How does he prove what religion he is or is not?

[carmel34 3,633]

Looks like a classic case of "too married for a K-1, not married legally so you can't do CR-1."  We see many of these cases here on VJ.  You can wait for the K-1 to play out, see what happens at her interview, then go from there.  That process will take at least 6-8 months, sometimes longer in high-fraud countries like Morocco where they often do extended background checks.  If denied after an 8+ month wait, and then you get married (additional time even if you go to a third country where it is fast and religion doesn't matter) and file for a CR-1 that will take another year at least if all goes well, so a possible total of a year and a half or two years.  If you cancel the K-1 now and get married and file for a CR-1 it will only be about a year.  You're weighing the risk of K-1 denial here and that seems likely based on the location and the "engagement/wedding" party photos.  I would suggest cancelling K-1, get married as soon as you can, then file CR-1.  If the K-1 is denied there is no appeal process, it typically dies.  And a K-1 also involves the hassles of adjustment of status after marriage in the US and your fiancee/wife will not be able to work, get a driver's license, or leave the country for 6-8 months, a period many refer to as the "K-1 hell."  With a CR-1 she would be able to work immediately upon entry to the US, or leave the country in the case of an emergency back home, a huge advantage IMO.  Good luck!

Edited January 4, 2020 by carmel34