I-134

[Simon quach 0]

Regarding my I-134 aff of support.

So I have my recent tax returns, IRS tax transcripts, & w-2.  Do I need a letter of verification of employment if I have recent pay stubs?

Also on the I-134 app I put I have x amount of money in my savings.  Do I need to include a bank statement to show proof?

 

[payxibka 10,045]

11 minutes ago, Simon quach said:

Regarding my I-134 aff of support.

So I have my recent tax returns, IRS tax transcripts, & w-2.  Do I need a letter of verification of employment if I have recent pay stubs?

Also on the I-134 app I put I have x amount of money in my savings.  Do I need to include a bank statement to show proof?

 

Returns and transcripts are redundant.   Are you relying on assets or is your income sufficient?  What do the instructions from your consulate indicate?  

[Simon quach 0]

No I'm not relying on a sponsor.  I make 4x the required minimum. Over $50k.

[payxibka 10,045]

34 minutes ago, Simon quach said:

No I'm not relying on a sponsor.  I make 4x the required minimum. Over $50k.

If you qualify on income then asset identification and verification are superfluous 

[Simon quach 0]

I figured it doesn't hurt to include more docs than you need to be on the safe side.

[payxibka 10,045]

8 minutes ago, Simon quach said:

I figured it doesn't hurt to include more docs than you need to be on the safe side.

Typically the consulate instructions should identify what they want.  Visit your regional forum to see if there is any discussion from others who have gone through before you 

[WandY 430]

5 hours ago, payxibka said:

Returns and transcripts are redundant.   Are you relying on assets or is your income sufficient?  What do the instructions from your consulate indicate?  

Wrong. Tax returns and tax transcripts are not the same. Look it up. Since the government is now redacting information on tax transcripts, you need to provide tax returns. Tax transcripts only show the basic information and does not show any amendments or changes. Provide tax returns, as mentioned in the revised instructions. https://www.uscis.gov/i-134

 

[Crazy Cat 41,982]

9 minutes ago, WandY said:

Wrong. Tax returns and tax transcripts are not the same. Look it up. Since the government is now redacting information on tax transcripts, you need to provide tax returns. Tax transcripts only show the basic information and does not show any amendments or changes. Provide tax returns, as mentioned in the revised instructions. https://www.uscis.gov/i-134

 

 

Fact:  Tax returns do not prove taxes were even filed......transcripts do.

Edited January 3, 2020 by missileman

[WandY 430]

5 hours ago, payxibka said:

If you qualify on income then asset identification and verification are superfluous 

Superfluous? Really? You have to go by the rules and provide the information requested. You have to prove income, regardless of how much you claim to make. A lot of people say they make xxxx, but in reality, their taxes say otherwise. Funny that you use the adjective "superfluous," especially when almost everyone on VJ promotes front-loading. I'm not a front-loading supporter, but I do believe in being better-safe-than-sorry when proving income - especially with Vietnam. I know from experience at the Saigon consulate interview - a tough one, for sure - and can attest that they are extremely thorough with regards to taxes, assets, occupation, income, etc. Be prepared at the VN consulate. Very prepared.

[payxibka 10,045]

30 minutes ago, WandY said:

Wrong. Tax returns and tax transcripts are not the same. Look it up. Since the government is now redacting information on tax transcripts, you need to provide tax returns. Tax transcripts only show the basic information and does not show any amendments or changes. Provide tax returns, as mentioned in the revised instructions. https://www.uscis.gov/i-134

 

Your link is to the 2.13.19 edition. 

 

I love how people quote non existant uscis instructions for a form that is to be submitted to the department of state.   Each consulate establishes there own requirements

[Greenbaum 12,259]

2 hours ago, WandY said:

Wrong. Tax returns and tax transcripts are not the same. Look it up. Since the government is now redacting information on tax transcripts, you need to provide tax returns. Tax transcripts only show the basic information and does not show any amendments or changes. Provide tax returns, as mentioned in the revised instructions. https://www.uscis.gov/i-134

 

From the embassy's own website instryctuibs they request ONLY the Tax Trasncript. Here is the paragraph where it is asked for.

 

* For K applicants: The petitioner may complete an original signed Form I-134, Affidavit of Support for the principal applicant and one copy for each eligible travelling applicant. A photocopy of the petitioner’s IRS tax transcripts and any relevant W-2s must be included.

When applicable, joint sponsor should include all of the documents listed above, plus proof of immigration status such as a photocopy of his/her U.S. Birth Certificate, U.S. Passport, Naturalization Certificate, or Lawful Permanent Resident Card. The officer will make the decision whether a joint sponsor is accepted at the interview.

 

https://vn.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/required-documents/

Edited January 3, 2020 by Greenbaum

[geowrian 22,337]

3 hours ago, WandY said:

Wrong. Tax returns and tax transcripts are not the same. Look it up. Since the government is now redacting information on tax transcripts, you need to provide tax returns. Tax transcripts only show the basic information and does not show any amendments or changes. Provide tax returns, as mentioned in the revised instructions. https://www.uscis.gov/i-134

Who said you need to provide the actual return instead of a transcript? That's news to me. Do you have a reference of a case where a transcript was deemed unacceptable?

I've seen a small handful of 221(g)s asking explicitly for the transcript (probably an incomplete copy was provided).

 

The instructions state - as they have done so for years - a copy of the tax return. Check archive.org for past editions. I ahve a few different editions saved locally myself. A transcript was never explicitly requested for the I-134, but has been used for years and years.

Nothing has changed with regard to the use of transcripts.

 

And always go by the consulate's instructions first...they solely make the rules for how to interpret an I-134 since the form is only a tool, unlike the I-864.

Edited January 3, 2020 by geowrian

[Ryan H 3,817]

Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

[p.dang 49]

I went to the interview. A person who looks over the required documents and process all the document before your interview. I bought 3 years of transcript, copies of 4 weekly paystub, 1 year of bank statement. Employer verification letter.

 

They only took my most recent irs transcript and a copy of the recent w2. Gave the rest back.

[SmallTownPA 72]

The I-134 is a 'screening' process.  Almost no other visa uses it, the others rely on the legally binding I-864.

 

That said, the TAX TRANSCRIPT is what USCIS calls 'BEST EVIDENCE' (as opposed to primary and secondary evidence)

 

https://www.uscis.gov/ilink/docView/AFM/HTML/AFM/0-0-0-1/0-0-0-2061/0-0-0-2073.html

 

Why?  Because the transcript is basically a 3rd party verifying your information.  You fill out a 1040 and submit it to USCIS that means nothing, you can throw it away and make another one.  W2s are Best Evidence as it pure data from a 3rd party that you have no chance to alter.

 

Since USCIS and DoS are two completely different entities, they can ask for different things.  USCIS forms may say tax returns are ok, but the Consulate (under DoS) may say lol no, we want transcripts so we can filter out possible fraud.