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Petitioner's Spouse not living in same residence but still counted as household member? Form I864 or I864a?

Immigrant application type: F2B
Beneficiary: Me (son)
Petitioner: Father (no income)
Add sponsor: Mother (with income, tax filing Status: ‘Married filing separately’, not living in same residence but still married)

In the petitioner’s I-864 form Part 5 item 3 it says 'If you are currently married, enter "1" for your spouse’. Which means you include the spouse as a household member. Then on part 6 item 8 It says: “Income you are using from any other person who was counted in your household size....” So we add my mother there. Then on Part 6 item 21: "The people listed in item numbers 8 .... have completed I-864A....". So now my mother is part of the household even if she is not in the same residence. Should I fillup I-864a or I-864 only?

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Mother does not live with you so she fills out a I-864.

 

Do not count yourself twice on your I-864.

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1 hour ago, Paul & Mary said:

Mother does not live with you so she fills out a I-864.

 

Do not count yourself twice on your I-864.

 

1 hour ago, Paul & Mary said:

Mother does not live with you so she fills out a I-864.

 

Do not count yourself twice on your I-864.

So do we still tick Part6 Item 21?? Since we already add mother in household because of Part 5 item 3 "if petitioner is married enter 1 for his spouse"

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Edited by Marky81
Filed: FB-2 Visa Country: Singapore
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In I864 form you include the petitioner's spouse as part of the household because it says so in Part 5 item 3. Then you add it in Part 5 item 8 if u need her income. Then Part 6 item 21 the household member needs to fillin I864a. Now if my mother fill out the I864a and they are not in the same residence as the petitioner then my mom should also fill in I864 form?? So she will fill-in both??? Please take time to check the item I mentioned in I864 regarding my dilemma.

Edited by Marky81
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2 hours ago, Marky81 said:

Now if my mother fill out the I864a and they are not in the same residence as the petitioner then my mom should also fill in I864 form??

Mother does not fill out I-864A.  She does not live in the same residence (household) as the petitioner.  She files a I-864, just like you!  If your mother is married then her spouse fills in a I-864A.

 

2 hours ago, Marky81 said:

Then you add it in Part 5 item 8 if u need her income.

No that is the total of the household size.  Do you mean part 6 question 8?  You do not include the beneficiary's income UNLESS it is from a US Source and will continue after immigrating.

 

Remember that both you and your mother are individually Sponsors even though you are not financially qualified.

 

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March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

Filed: FB-2 Visa Country: Singapore
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Posted (edited)

Hi thanks for the reply.
The I864 form I’m referring to is my father’s (petitioner). When he filled out the form he put “1” on Part 5 Item 3 which says “If you are currently married, enter 1 for your spouse”. Because he put “1” his spouse (my mother) is part of the household. So are you saying he should not put “1” in Part 5 Item 3 even if he is married? 

Edited by Marky81
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1 hour ago, Marky81 said:

Hi thanks for the reply.
The I864 form I’m referring to is my father’s (petitioner). When he filled out the form he put “1” on Part 5 Item 3 which says “If you are currently married, enter 1 for your spouse”. Because he put “1” his spouse (my mother) is part of the household. So are you saying he should not put “1” in Part 5 Item 3 even if he is married? 

Your father is the petitioner?  Who is the beneficiary?

March 2, 2018  Married In Hong Kong

April 30, 2018  Mary moves from the Philippines to Mexico, Husband has MX Permanent Residency

June 13, 2018 Mary receives Mexican Residency Card

June 15, 2018  I-130 DCF Appointment in Juarez  -  June 18, 2018  Approval E-Mail

August 2, 2018 Case Complete At Consulate

September 25, 2018 Interview in CDJ and Approved!

October 7, 2018 In the USA

October 27, 2018 Green Card received 

October 29, 2018 Applied for Social Security Card - November 5, 2018 Social Security Card received

November 6th, 2018 State ID Card Received, Applied for Global Entry - Feb 8,2019 Approved.

July 14, 2020 Removal of Conditions submitted by mail  July 12, 2021 Biometrics Completed

August 6, 2021 N-400 submitted by mail

September 7, 2021 I-751 Interview, Sept 8 Approved and Card Being Produced

October 21, 2021 N-400 Biometrics Completed  

November 30,2021  Interview, Approval and Oath

December 10, 2021 US Passport Issued

August 12, 2022 PHL Dual Nationality Re-established & Passport Approved 

April 6,2023 Legally Separated - Oh well

 
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