Vaccination Concerns

[Highmystic 234]

32 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Read it again.  It in no way says what you state it says.

It actually said there was an outbreak and they closed the school early but.. 100 percent had been vaxed.

[geowrian 22,337]

3 hours ago, Highmystic said:

Actually the "national id" of sorts,  goes into effect in 2020.  If you do not have the star on your DL,  You can not board an airplane, go in to any federal building.  My DL  needs to be updated in 2020 if I ever want to get back to the Philippines.  Or take a slow boat.

As others noted:

1) A REAL ID DL is optional.

2) Other forms of IDs can be used for federal buildings and domestic flights. Like a passport.

3) A REAL ID DL cannot be used for international flights. You still need a passport (or other international travel document).

 

2 hours ago, Highmystic said:

I have to admit, I have not done much reading on it as yet, just saying what the clerk at motor vehicles stated.    So, If I want to go in to a federal building,  such as USCIS,    I don't need the RealID, just my DL and Passport? 

Just the passport would work fine. No DL needed (REAL ID or not).

 

1 hour ago, Jorgedig said:

Enhanced DLs are optional.  I don't plan to get an enhanced DL - no reason to, as I have a US passport, and I use that for ID for domestic travel.  In addition, non-citizens in Washington are not eligible for enhanced DLs, so my husband will not be upgrading his either.

I'll get one, just because it's easier to carry that with me than a passport, and less risk/cost/etc. if it gets lost or stolen.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

47 minutes ago, Highmystic said:

It actually said there was an outbreak and they closed the school early but.. 100 percent had been vaxed.

That’s Houston.  We live here. 
 

You do know that the vaccine is only about 80% effective right?

 

[igoyougoduke 1,656]

11 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

That’s Houston.  We live here. 
 

You do know that the vaccine is only about 80% effective right?

 

absence of vaccines is -500000%  effective right 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

1 hour ago, Donald120383 said:

absence of vaccines is -500000%  effective right 

Actually for whooping cough?  Absence of vaccine is 99.5% effective.

Mortality’s about a half percent.  Kills 5 out of a thousand.  Vaccination saves 4 of those 5.

It’s a numbers game.

Edited December 31, 2019 by Nitas_man

[Going through 5,671]

23 hours ago, MarimaDay said:

I am from Romania, and I have been told since I was little that vaccinations in the US and other countries contain some type of tracking technology and/or are chipped. I want to know if this is true because I feel very uncomfortable with the idea, and honestly if any part of this is true I would elect not to remain in the US instead. 

This somewhat reminds me of the thread where the person's mother swore she saw "black helicopters" flying overhead every time she left the house.

 

On an aside, I have been told since I was little that vampires run rampant through Romania.  Doesn't mean it's true.

 

The only things being chipped around here are dogs and cats.

 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

Just now, Going through said:

This somewhat reminds me of the thread where the person's mother swore she saw "black helicopters" flying overhead every time she left the house.

 

On an aside, I have been told since I was little that vampires run rampant through Romania.  Doesn't mean it's true.

 

The only things being chipped around here are dogs and cats.

 

My cat’s chipped.  Doesn’t mean I can find her

[Going through 5,671]

9 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

My cat’s chipped.  Doesn’t mean I can find her

I never understood the benefit of micro-chipping pets, either---unless the lost cat/dog shows up at a vet somehow, and the animal subsequently scanned for a chip, no one would be the wiser as to whom it belongs to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 1, 2020 by Going through

[geowrian 22,337]

21 minutes ago, Going through said:

I never understood the benefit of micro-chipping pets, either---unless the lost cat/dog shows up at a vet somehow, and the animal subsequently scanned for a chip, no one would be the wiser as to whom it belongs to.

A lost pet that is found by somebody is fairly regularly checked for chips. I know a few people who were able to reunite with their lost pets as a result of having them chipped.

Edit: And collars come off. It's not uncommon actually, and a collar-less pet is especially common if the pet escaped the house (e.g. ran out when the door was opened).

Edited January 1, 2020 by geowrian

[SalishSea 17,852]

3 hours ago, geowrian said:

I'll get one, just because it's easier to carry that with me than a passport, and less risk/cost/etc. if it gets lost or stolen.

Good plan.  My regular Washington state DL expires in October of 2020.  I may upgrade then.

[NikLR 13,227]

1 hour ago, Going through said:

I never understood the benefit of micro-chipping pets, either---unless the lost cat/dog shows up at a vet somehow, and the animal subsequently scanned for a chip, no one would be the wiser as to whom it belongs to.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Every shelter and vet checks microchips.  Ive seen too many dead pets or even lost pets where you cant reuinite them.  But 99% of found microchipped pets end up back with their families, somehow. 

[Going through 5,671]

I guess I''m more thinking of the ones that never end up being "turned in" to a vet or shelter where the chip can be checked--- the ones that end up being strays, or someone else just scoops them up and takes them home without a second thought.

  

My cat is chipped (have to get the 2nd one chipped, still), but it would be nice to be able to track him somehow if he ever did get out. 

 

At his old age, though, he's more likely to look at an open door with disdain and the thought of "Nope.  I'm lucky I was able to get up on the couch today much less travel any further than that."

[Nitas_man 3,100]

2 hours ago, Jorgedig said:

Good plan.  My regular Washington state DL expires in October of 2020.  I may upgrade then.

You probably wont have a choice.  The states had a deadline to be compliant

[geowrian 22,337]

31 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

You probably wont have a choice.  The states had a deadline to be compliant

My state lets you choose if you want a regular one or a REAL ID one still, even if you can qualify for both. The non-compliant one is only valid as an ID for local and state purposes (not federal), and to drive.

REAL ID DLs require additional documentation that some people just don't want to provide or don't have off-hand (i.e. a BC or passport). They still let them use it for driving, though.

[yuna628 9,677]

Most legal immigrants are in this state, for one reason or another REAL ID compliant and don't actually have to do anything compared to us citizens. My husband was compliant when he first arrived. MD requires everyone to now be in compliance and if you are pulled over and driving with a non compliant license that has been recalled with a prior notice they can actually take it off of you. I've had to pay for at least two new ones, as the first round of notices ended up sending us out cards that were misprinted. Once again this is causing headaches for older people in this state as they struggle through the red tape to obtain qualifying documents.