Trump’s stock market rally is very good, but still lags Obama and Clinton

[90DayFinancier 910]

10 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Right, it's 10 billion dollars but doesn't show any incredible skill. Give me that same 35 billion and I guarantee you it won't even be 6 months before that's 45 billion. So I'm truly not sure why we're supposed to be impressed.

I just looked it up  30 year bonds were marked at 9% in 1988. Turning a liquid 3 billion into 10 would have been a no brainier.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

13 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I just looked it up  30 year bonds were marked at 9% in 1988. Turning a liquid 3 billion into 10 would have been a no brainier.

Hindsight is awesome, eh?

 

you never said what YOUR net worth is, I noticed.

[90DayFinancier 910]

2 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Hindsight is awesome, eh?

 

you never said what YOUR net worth is, I noticed.

Why is that a topic? I am pointing out basic math facts to illustrate that Donald Trump is not the business or economic wizard everyone claims he is. I could be dead broke and that would still be a fact.

 

[90DayFinancier 910]

On 12/28/2019 at 1:41 PM, Burnt Reynolds said:

Hey hey hey, here's one company that went bankrupt, ahahahahaha.. even though Trump owns 150+ companies.. ahahahaha.

 

 

I cannot read the titles of any of those. You know they are profitable (or even have money) how?

 

Just in case you need your own indecipherable wall of empty shell companies to impress others:

 

How Much Does It Cost to Incorporate in Delaware?
There are several fees to consider when incorporating or forming an LLC in Delaware, including:

Delaware Incorporation Fees
The state fee to incorporate in Delaware is a minimum of $89. This includes your Division of Corporation fees ($50), filing fee tax ($15 minimum), and the county fee ($24). This price is based on a corporation with 1,500 shares at no par value, so the filing fees will vary depending on the number of shares you desire and their par value.

Delaware LLC Filing Fees
Similarly, the Delaware LLC fees include $90 to the state for filing your Delaware LLC formation.

 

 

 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

55 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Hindsight is awesome, eh?

 

you never said what YOUR net worth is, I noticed.

We can't seem to figure out a point of discussion on this, and I fully expect it go to into a discussion about mushrooms and weight pretty soon. It's all personal animus toward Trump himself. The economy speaks for itself, Trump's business success speaks for itself, his 7-8 billion net worth speaks for itself (whether I agree with it or not I think is best saved for a thread worth the discussion), what I do think this thread is worth is entertaining ourselves on how those with TDS try and place specific things under a microscope and embellish them, trying to make big picture claims, while missing the bigger picture entirely, for obvious self-deluding reasons. It'll never stop being funny. There's no rational person this stuff works on.

Edited December 30, 2019 by Burnt Reynolds

[laylalex 7,284]

17 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I cannot read the titles of any of those. You know they are profitable (or even have money) how?

 

Just in case you need your own indecipherable wall of empty shell companies to impress others:

 

How Much Does It Cost to Incorporate in Delaware?
There are several fees to consider when incorporating or forming an LLC in Delaware, including:

Delaware Incorporation Fees
The state fee to incorporate in Delaware is a minimum of $89. This includes your Division of Corporation fees ($50), filing fee tax ($15 minimum), and the county fee ($24). This price is based on a corporation with 1,500 shares at no par value, so the filing fees will vary depending on the number of shares you desire and their par value.

Delaware LLC Filing Fees
Similarly, the Delaware LLC fees include $90 to the state for filing your Delaware LLC formation.

 

 

 

I prefer Wyoming LLCs to Delaware LLCs for the few shells I have. Like Wyoming, the transparency to the outside world is extremely murky. What's better is that turnaround time is almost immediate, the incorporation fees are dirt cheap and the annual fees are almost nothing. I have a registered agent in Cheyenne who handles everything for me. I haven't used any of the ones I have yet, but I will be in the new year for a business venture, so I will need to register it as a foreign LLC in California. No big deal, and I still don't need to disclose the membership of the LLC, which is important to me.

[laylalex 7,284]

30 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I cannot read the titles of any of those. You know they are profitable (or even have money) how?

Want to see something interesting? I was really intrigued by one of the names on that list, since it looked like gobbledygook to me: Trump Marks Mortoaoe Corp. Like, was that supposed to say "Mortgage"? Dunno. So I Googled "Trump Marks Mortoaoe" and I found this: https://qz.com/461688/a-list-of-everything-donald-trump-runs-that-has-his-name-on-it/

 

Kind of looks similar, doesn't it? If you dig further in that article, it points to an FEC disclosure form listing all (presumably) of the Trump-affiliated businesses, and there are even more there than on that list in the picture: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2175187-trump.html (This also shows that it was supposed to be Trump Marks Mortgage Corp., and the Quartz article mangled the word "mortgage".)

 

So why are there so many more that are in the total FEC disclosure than on that picture? My guess, tracking the apparent order of the list in that picture, is that it lifts its contents from that Quartz article. And what does that Quartz article actually show? It shows "A list of everything Donald Trump runs that has his name on it". Now, if I hadn't packed up my printer, I could print out the picture and spend an hour or so cross-checking that I'm right about this, but I kind of think I'm right about this. There's no indication that any of these businesses in the list in the picture and in that Quartz article are profitable, just that they have Trump's name in them.

[90DayFinancier 910]

5 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Want to see something interesting? I was really intrigued by one of the names on that list, since it looked like gobbledygook to me: Trump Marks Mortoaoe Corp. Like, was that supposed to say "Mortgage"? Dunno. So I Googled "Trump Marks Mortoaoe" and I found this: https://qz.com/461688/a-list-of-everything-donald-trump-runs-that-has-his-name-on-it/

 

Kind of looks similar, doesn't it? If you dig further in that article, it points to an FEC disclosure form listing all (presumably) of the Trump-affiliated businesses, and there are even more there than on that list in the picture: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2175187-trump.html (This also shows that it was supposed to be Trump Marks Mortgage Corp., and the Quartz article mangled the word "mortgage".)

 

So why are there so many more that are in the total FEC disclosure than on that picture? My guess, tracking the apparent order of the list in that picture, is that it lifts its contents from that Quartz article. And what does that Quartz article actually show? It shows "A list of everything Donald Trump runs that has his name on it". Now, if I hadn't packed up my printer, I could print out the picture and spend an hour or so cross-checking that I'm right about this, but I kind of think I'm right about this. There's no indication that any of these businesses in the list in the picture and in that Quartz article are profitable, just that they have Trump's name in them.

The best Trump LLC name yet " damage control" used by Michael Cohen to pay the national enquirer to kill the Karen McDougal story😅😅😅😄

[90DayFinancier 910]

39 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

We can't seem to figure out a point of discussion on this, and I fully expect it go to into a discussion about mushrooms and weight pretty soon. It's all personal animus toward Trump himself. The economy speaks for itself, Trump's business success speaks for itself, his 7-8 billion net worth speaks for itself (whether I agree with it or not I think is best saved for a thread worth the discussion), what I do think this thread is worth is entertaining ourselves on how those with TDS try and place specific things under a microscope and embellish them, trying to make big picture claims, while missing the bigger picture entirely, for obvious self-deluding reasons. It'll never stop being funny. There's no rational person this stuff works on.

Nice deflection.

[laylalex 7,284]

8 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

The best Trump LLC name yet " damage control" used by Michael Cohen to pay the national enquirer to kill the Karen McDougal story😅😅😅😄

I like the Lev Parnas one: Fraud Guarantee. Granted, it's not a Trump LLC, but it's part of the broader story.

[90DayFinancier 910]

5 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I like the Lev Parnas one: Fraud Guarantee. Granted, it's not a Trump LLC, but it's part of the broader story.

Turns out "Fraud Guarantee" is inactive but still managed to pay Guliani 500k 🤔

Also big donors to Trump Pacs.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, laylalex said:

So why are there so many more that are in the total FEC disclosure than on that picture?

Someone's angling for Snopes' new meme fact checking position.