JANUARY 2020 K-1 NOA2 to NVC to EMBASSY

[LegalAlienn 125]

Hi guys

Just of curiosity question. How do you explain now that some cases that got later approved arrive at NVC before those others? Is there still some kind of check ups or it is just matter of luck 😊

[Greenbaum 12,259]

24 minutes ago, LegalAlienn said:

Hi guys

Just of curiosity question. How do you explain now that some cases that got later approved arrive at NVC before those others? Is there still some kind of check ups or it is just matter of luck 😊

I'm not sure of your question but I will take a "stab" at it and see if my answer helps. Each case is different. Some will move faster and some will be slower. 

 

When NVC receives the approved I-129f from USCIS, they check to ensure that it’s been stamped. NVC will occasionally receive a petition from USCIS and it does not have the appropriate approval stamp in the upper left-hand corner. They are also checking to make sure that the three criminal questions have been answered. He noted that there are times when the petitioner will forget to complete those questions and those questions are subsequently missed by the adjudicator.  In both of these instances the case will then be sent back to USCIS. If one of these things occur with a case file recently received from USCSI, NVC would know within the first week of receiving the case.

[LegalAlienn 125]

12 hours ago, Greenbaum said:

I'm not sure of your question but I will take a "stab" at it and see if my answer helps. Each case is different. Some will move faster and some will be slower. 

 

When NVC receives the approved I-129f from USCIS, they check to ensure that it’s been stamped. NVC will occasionally receive a petition from USCIS and it does not have the appropriate approval stamp in the upper left-hand corner. They are also checking to make sure that the three criminal questions have been answered. He noted that there are times when the petitioner will forget to complete those questions and those questions are subsequently missed by the adjudicator.  In both of these instances the case will then be sent back to USCIS. If one of these things occur with a case file recently received from USCSI, NVC would know within the first week of receiving the case.

So my question was, how it comes that later approved cases from USCIS arrive before those who got approved earlier. For instance, if my case is approved on 20th and someone’s case on 25th, how it comes that my case doesn’t arrive first? 
 

If I understood well, NVC informs us when the case arrives, right? And then after that they will do the check ups with stamps etc as you mentioned above and if everything is ok they’ll assign the case number. And that may occur for embassy delivery, which I understand. 
 

I hope that my question makes more sense 😊

 

PS. this is nothing to complain about or anything bad on their work, just a discussion 

[Zaraliaya 122]

1 hour ago, LegalAlienn said:

So my question was, how it comes that later approved cases from USCIS arrive before those who got approved earlier. For instance, if my case is approved on 20th and someone’s case on 25th, how it comes that my case doesn’t arrive first? 
 

If I understood well, NVC informs us when the case arrives, right? And then after that they will do the check ups with stamps etc as you mentioned above and if everything is ok they’ll assign the case number. And that may occur for embassy delivery, which I understand. 
 

I hope that my question makes more sense 😊

 

PS. this is nothing to complain about or anything bad on their work, just a discussion 

I obviously don't know the actual answer.

 

But to me, it's probably the same reason people with later NoA1s get approved faster than people with dates earlier than them. The government just likes to mess with us. 

 

But really, maybe some workers are faster than others, or the mail was delayed or something.

[LegalAlienn 125]

18 minutes ago, Zaraliaya said:

I obviously don't know the actual answer.

 

But to me, it's probably the same reason people with later NoA1s get approved faster than people with dates earlier than them. The government just likes to mess with us. 

 

But really, maybe some workers are faster than others, or the mail was delayed or something.

I don’t think that it should be the same reason, because when getting NOA2 you are going through many background checks which can affect the processing. However, the second one makes sense. Maybe just some workers are faster on mailing those approved cases. I was thinking the same, but maybe someone just knows something more 😊

[Zaraliaya 122]

7 minutes ago, LegalAlienn said:

I don’t think that it should be the same reason, because when getting NOA2 you are going through many background checks which can affect the processing. However, the second one makes sense. Maybe just some workers are faster on mailing those approved cases. I was thinking the same, but maybe someone just knows something more 😊

Well I didn't mean the security checks, I meant mostly the government messing with us. I know that process has other things, lol

[E&W 146]

2 hours ago, LegalAlienn said:

So my question was, how it comes that later approved cases from USCIS arrive before those who got approved earlier. For instance, if my case is approved on 20th and someone’s case on 25th, how it comes that my case doesn’t arrive first? 
 

If I understood well, NVC informs us when the case arrives, right? And then after that they will do the check ups with stamps etc as you mentioned above and if everything is ok they’ll assign the case number. And that may occur for embassy delivery, which I understand. 
 

I hope that my question makes more sense 😊

 

PS. this is nothing to complain about or anything bad on their work, just a discussion 

I would imagine that these things are processed in batches. Your petition might have an earlier date, but it can also end up being the last case in a batch, while someone’s with a later date ends up being the first in a batch, and thus  gets worked on earlier. Plus some cases missing stamps, some people work slower, someone gets sick in the office etc. It’s like waiting in line in a bank, you may enter the bank sooner then another person, but your line just ends up being slower.

Just my 2 cents.

[Jöla 27]

Hi @Greenbaum, I looked through this thread but did not find the P3 for Frankfurt, Germany. Do you happen to have it?

 

We received something from the consulate yesterday, but we are unsure if it actually is P3 or just the confirmation of them receiving the approved petition.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

2 hours ago, LegalAlienn said:

So my question was, how it comes that later approved cases from USCIS arrive before those who got approved earlier. For instance, if my case is approved on 20th and someone’s case on 25th, how it comes that my case doesn’t arrive first? .....

The system was never designed to take first in first out. It was designed to move cases when they are finished at that "stop". We have tried to figure out what, when and where for so long that we just gave up. We have found ways to work around "roadblocks" or to see how things move along with the intent to keep and "eye" out for our files progress. I hope this address's your concern and I am sure it wasn't the answer you were looking for but this has been my experience for the past 6 years.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

15 minutes ago, Jöla said:

Hi @Greenbaum, I looked through this thread but did not find the P3 for Frankfurt, Germany. Do you happen to have it?

 

We received something from the consulate yesterday, but we are unsure if it actually is P3 or just the confirmation of them receiving the approved petition.

Information to prepare for the interview
http://www.ustraveldocs.com/de/index.html?firstTime=No
Information from the embassy website
https://de.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/fiancee-visa/
P3 letter
https://de.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/Instructions-for-IV-and-K-Visa-Applicants-1.pdf
Additional information
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wop8bIKTDfrixAjYxHktS9bkfEeRi1oh/view?usp=sharing
Sub-Forum for your area:

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/95-europe-amp-eurasia-except-the-uk-and-russia/NOTE: The I-134 requires a "wet" signature. They will send you the P3 through the mail. There are some documents that need to be completed which you will return and then your interview is assigned.

 

If you find anything not up to date or the information is wrong, please share your findings. Please compare the date of the P3 of mine with the date from your copy, once you receive yours from your embassy. Keep in mind that I try and be factual with my information, but I can't do it on my own and that's where you come in and can give back to the community those who come behind you. Without others ahead of you I would not be able to provide this to you.  I can only share factual information if folks like you continue to be my eyes and ears for your embassy. I wish you much success in your visa journey.

[Greenbaum 12,259]

1 hour ago, Zaraliaya said:

Well I didn't mean the security checks, I meant mostly the government messing with us. I know that process has other things, lol

So how is the government messing with you?

[Zaraliaya 122]

4 minutes ago, Greenbaum said:

So how is the government messing with you?

By making us wait longer than we'd like? Lol

 

It was supposed to be a silly joke. Obv it didn't work. Let's pretend I didn't say anything.

[Jöla 27]

18 minutes ago, Greenbaum said:

Information to prepare for the interview
http://www.ustraveldocs.com/de/index.html?firstTime=No
Information from the embassy website
https://de.usembassy.gov/visas/immigrant-visas/fiancee-visa/
P3 letter
https://de.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/Instructions-for-IV-and-K-Visa-Applicants-1.pdf
Additional information
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Wop8bIKTDfrixAjYxHktS9bkfEeRi1oh/view?usp=sharing
Sub-Forum for your area:

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/95-europe-amp-eurasia-except-the-uk-and-russia/NOTE: The I-134 requires a "wet" signature. They will send you the P3 through the mail. There are some documents that need to be completed which you will return and then your interview is assigned.

 

If you find anything not up to date or the information is wrong, please share your findings. Please compare the date of the P3 of mine with the date from your copy, once you receive yours from your embassy. Keep in mind that I try and be factual with my information, but I can't do it on my own and that's where you come in and can give back to the community those who come behind you. Without others ahead of you I would not be able to provide this to you.  I can only share factual information if folks like you continue to be my eyes and ears for your embassy. I wish you much success in your visa journey.

Thank you! I am going to share some information with you below, please let me know if this is better posted in the Europe regional forum.

 

We had reviewed the official websites and documentation you have linked above. We also have the checklist.

Unfortunately, the link to the P3 letter is not working - I believe it was just showing the checklist though (the one you shared on Google Drive, see here: https://de.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/Instructions-for-IV-and-K-Visa-Applicants.pdf). That checklist was not in the envelope we received yesterday, but I guess they're trying to save paper somewhere.

 

The envelope only had a two-page letter saying that the Immigrant Visa Unit has received an approved visa petition for me and is now ready to begin the process of my application. It then says "Please read and follow the instructions very carefully" with the link to their website you also shared above. It also shows my case number some personal data like name and DOB. The second page is a form that I am supposed to fill out and send in with my "forms and documents", listing all the places I have resided in for more than 6 months since I am 16 (makes sense for the police certificates etc.).

It also had a copy of the entire approved I-129F form with annotations by USCIS attached (for my records) as well as a pamphlet (in German) that mainly talks about domestic violence and rights of immigrants. That was the entire content of the envelope.

 

So, do you know if this is really the "Packet 3"? That would mean that all the instructions available are the ones online (incl. the checklist).

[Greenbaum 12,259]

1 hour ago, Jöla said:

Thank you! I am going to share some information with you below, please let me know if this is better posted in the Europe regional forum.

 

We had reviewed the official websites and documentation you have linked above. We also have the checklist.

Unfortunately, the link to the P3 letter is not working - I believe it was just showing the checklist though (the one you shared on Google Drive, see here: https://de.usembassy.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/Instructions-for-IV-and-K-Visa-Applicants.pdf). That checklist was not in the envelope we received yesterday, but I guess they're trying to save paper somewhere.

 

So, do you know if this is really the "Packet 3"? That would mean that all the instructions available are the ones online (incl. the checklist).

The P3 is the link you put in your reply and is much newer then the version I have. So you should have everything to proceed. Good luck.

[LegalAlienn 125]

1 hour ago, Greenbaum said:

The system was never designed to take first in first out. It was designed to move cases when they are finished at that "stop". We have tried to figure out what, when and where for so long that we just gave up. We have found ways to work around "roadblocks" or to see how things move along with the intent to keep and "eye" out for our files progress. I hope this address's your concern and I am sure it wasn't the answer you were looking for but this has been my experience for the past 6 years.

Yeah definitely. Well I’m sure there are more reasons why that happens, but we can’t reach to that 😊

1 hour ago, E&W said:

I would imagine that these things are processed in batches. Your petition might have an earlier date, but it can also end up being the last case in a batch, while someone’s with a later date ends up being the first in a batch, and thus  gets worked on earlier. Plus some cases missing stamps, some people work slower, someone gets sick in the office etc. It’s like waiting in line in a bank, you may enter the bank sooner then another person, but your line just ends up being slower.

Just my 2 cents.

Those are the reasons too, definitely.