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8 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Only 8% higher and he would tie Jimmy Carter at the same point of their presidential terms. FWIW. 

And that would be the only similarity.  I lived thru the Carter years. Worse President ever one of the worst economies ever. Trump ine of the best President ever one of the best economy ever 

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40 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Is Trump impeached yet?

 

Oh wait.. can't make that joke anymore.

 

Is it over to the Senate yet?

Nancy is playing Queen, so who knows.

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And that would be the only similarity.  I lived thru the Carter years. Worse President ever one of the worst economies ever. Trump ine of the best President ever one of the best economy ever 

 

  So you are saying it's not worth bringing up approval ratings as proof of anything? Because we would agree, if that's what you are saying. That was my point really.

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  So you are saying it's not worth bringing up approval ratings as proof of anything? Because we would agree, if that's what you are saying. That was my point really.

Approval ratings don't mean squat right now. Even Hillary led Trump in every approval rating and promptly lost.

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Approval ratings don't mean squat right now. Even Hillary led Trump in every approval rating and promptly lost.

Approval ratings are like lie detectors, they only mean as much as people believe they do. In reality, lie detectors' only useful function is eliciting confessions, and "approval ratings" premise is not to dictate how good/bad the President is or their chances of re-election but specifically to shape public opinion. In project management, they're called "fudge factors", and resemble project crashing where we take precedence networks and screw with them to produce a viable (preferably shorter) critical path. In this situation with PR, the idea is to bring people into a box, make them believe approval ratings are meaningful, because it makes it easier to herd them into making predictable choices.

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I can quite imagine a situation, well I have been there, that come election time you look at the ballot and would not have taken any of those choices.

 

So you vote for someone or not at all.

 

That is a very different scenario to what these polls are supposedly measuring.

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Pelosi needs to be impeached for Abuse of Power and Obstruction of the Senate.

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Has everyone seen Alexandria Occasional-Cortex's trashing of Tulsi Gabbard for the latter's votes of "present" and the thorough rationales therefor?

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2019/12/19/oh-brother-ocasiocortez-chides-gabbard-for-voting-present-on-articles-of-impeachment-n2558322

 

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37 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Approval ratings are like lie detectors, they only mean as much as people believe they do. In reality, lie detectors' only useful function is eliciting confessions, and "approval ratings" premise is not to dictate how good/bad the President is or their chances of re-election but specifically to shape public opinion. In project management, they're called "fudge factors", and resemble project crashing where we take precedence networks and screw with them to produce a viable (preferably shorter) critical path. In this situation with PR, the idea is to bring people into a box, make them believe approval ratings are meaningful, because it makes it easier to herd them into making predictable choices.

there is a 90% chance hillary will be your next President. Opps my bad that was 2016

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8 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

there is a 90% chance hillary will be your next President. Opps my bad that was 2016

If it was good enough for then, it's good enough for now.

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09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

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10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

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05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

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Just thinking out loud here.  If Trump is removed from office, and Pence were to suddenly become incapacitated, that would make Califonia's sweetheart President.  How cool would that be?

 

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