Was denied appointment to get my certified true copy of Naturalization certificate

[Cathi 5,784]

13 hours ago, Elf said:

If the OP has dual citizenship with the US and the country to which she is traveling, she needs to enter and exit each country on that country's passport. Example: I'm a dual US/UK citizen, so I would need to exit the US on my US passport then enter the UK on my UK passport.

Not true for all countries.

 

My husband is a dual citizen and he enters and exits his home country with his U.S passport.

Edited December 18, 2019 by Cathi

[Lemon23 400]

13 hours ago, Elf said:

If the OP has dual citizenship with the US and the country to which she is traveling, she needs to enter and exit each country on that country's passport. Example: I'm a dual US/UK citizen, so I would need to exit the US on my US passport then enter the UK on my UK passport.

Not all, I'm a dual citizen too, when I travel this year back to my country I only have US passport with me and I can enter and exit my home country using US passport. 

 

[carmel34 3,655]

Strange that you would need a US certificate of naturalization to renew a foreign country's passport at their embassy or consulate in the US.  Normally all you would need is your current foreign passport, maybe a birth certificate from that country if they require it, NOT the US certificate of naturalization.  So check again the requirements of your non-US citizenship for passport renewal, you may not really need what you are asking for.  Good luck!

Edited December 18, 2019 by carmel34

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

19 minutes ago, carmel34 said:

Strange that you would need a US certificate of naturalization to renew a foreign country's passport at their embassy or consulate in the US.  Normally all you would need is your current foreign passport, maybe a birth certificate from that country if they require it, NOT the US certificate of naturalization.  So check again the requirements of your non-US citizenship for passport renewal, you may not really need what you are asking for.  Good luck!

Some countries require proof of residence in the foreign country if a national is applying at a consular post in that country for a passport. Not sure why the US passport would not be enough for this though.

[golubika 0]

Thank you all! yes, i am required to enter and exit on my other country passport. I won't be staying long enough to renew the passport. Also, the chance of some documents are missing, or apostle needed or something else is very likely to occur, so I would rather to deal with it in the US then back there.

 

[golubika 0]

22 minutes ago, carmel34 said:

Strange that you would need a US certificate of naturalization to renew a foreign country's passport at their embassy or consulate in the US.  Normally all you would need is your current foreign passport, maybe a birth certificate from that country if they require it, NOT the US certificate of naturalization.  So check again the requirements of your non-US citizenship for passport renewal, you may not really need what you are asking for.  Good luck!

I checked and they require the document proving my current permanent status here and only naturalization certificate is accepted.

[golubika 0]

12 hours ago, xyz12345 said:

How about this one?

https://www.uscis.gov/tools/how-do-i-guides/how-do-i-guides-us-citizens/how-do-i-obtain-certified-true-copies-a-certificate-naturalization

 

How Do I Obtain Certified True Copies of a Certificate of Naturalization?

 

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, will provide Certified True Copies and return these along with the supplied documentation to the requester. USCIS cannot act as an agent of the U.S. Department of State by accepting fees on behalf of other government agencies, or forwarding documentation to any other government agency. All documentation coming from a requester, along with any documentation supplied by the Department of Homeland Security, will be returned to the requester.

To obtain the services of the U.S. Department of State, Authentication Office, you should use one of the following methods:

Write to:

United States Department of State, Office of Authentications
1150 Passport Services Place, 1st Floor
Dulles, VA 20189-1150

202-647-4000, Option 3 or 202-485-8000
Internet: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/internl-judicial-asst/authentications-and-apostilles/office-of-authentications.html

 

 

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/records-and-authentications/authenticate-your-document/office-of-authentications.html

Office of Authentications

Physical Address:
Office of Authentications
600 19th St. NW
Washington, DC 20006

Mailing Address:
U.S. Department of State
Office of Authentications
CA/PPT/S/TO/AUT
44132 Mercure Cir.
PO Box 1206
Sterling, VA 20166-1206

Hours: 
Walk-Ins
8:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m.

Appointment Services
10:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m.

2:00 p.m. to 2:30 p.m.

Phone: 202-485-8000
Monday through Friday
Closed Federal Holidays

 

 

Submit a request for Authentication Services using Form DS-4194.

 

The Office of Authentications issues both apostilles and authentication certificates. If you need U.S. Department of State documents to be authenticated, please refer to the Office of Vital Records.

xyz12345,

Do I understand correctly that I  need to mail my original naturalization certificate to the first address (Dulles, VA) with the DS-4194 form? thank you

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

22 minutes ago, golubika said:

I checked and they require the document proving my current permanent status here and only naturalization certificate is accepted.

How is that any different from having a passport? I understand you don’t make the rules, but that’s bizarre. What happens to an automatically naturalized child that only has a passport and no certificate?

[golubika 0]

4 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

How is that any different from having a passport? I understand you don’t make the rules, but that’s bizarre. What happens to an automatically naturalized child that only has a passport and no certificate?

They told me they don't accept the passport, but I like your question and will call them to check about this. I guess because the country of birth is USA

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

10 minutes ago, golubika said:

They told me they don't accept the passport, but I like your question and will call them to check about this. I guess because the country of birth is USA

No, I mean a child born outside the US, if they are under 18 LPR living with parent when their parent naturalizes they automatically naturalize with the parent, but they do not attend the oath ceremony or get a certificate. They can just apply for a passport (currently doing this with my kid, which is why I thought of it). 

Edited December 18, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[golubika 0]

Just now, SusieQQQ said:

No, I mean a child born outside the US, if they are under 18 when their parent naturalizes they automatically naturalize with the parent but they do not attend the oath ceremony or get a certificate. They can just apply for a passport (currently doing this with my kid, which is why I thought of it). 

ah, ok! will ask that too/ thx!

[xyz12345 260]

2 hours ago, golubika said:

xyz12345,

Do I understand correctly that I  need to mail my original naturalization certificate to the first address (Dulles, VA) with the DS-4194 form? thank you

 

7 hours ago, milimelo said:

Get your congressman or senator’s immigration aide involved. They have direct means of communication with USCIS and can get you that appointment. 
 

Department of State will not apostille if the certified true copy is not from USCIS when it comes to naturalization certificate (personal experience). 

It's great that you have other suggestions because my suggestion is only from Google. See above for what @milimelo

ssaid about Dept of State and naturalization certificate.

[Alonso Ramirez 32]

On 12/17/2019 at 4:26 PM, Elf said:

If the OP has dual citizenship with the US and the country to which she is traveling, she needs to enter and exit each country on that country's passport. Example: I'm a dual US/UK citizen, so I would need to exit the US on my US passport then enter the UK on my UK passport.

What the what?! This is the first I am hearing of this. Didn't know each country has a different requirement. My parents are from Peru, they have dual citizenship (Peru/USA). They travel in and out of Peru and the U.S. with only their American passport. Their Peruvian passports are long gone. This is interesting.  

[geowrian 22,338]

2 hours ago, Alonso Ramirez said:

What the what?! This is the first I am hearing of this. Didn't know each country has a different requirement. My parents are from Peru, they have dual citizenship (Peru/USA). They travel in and out of Peru and the U.S. with only their American passport. Their Peruvian passports are long gone. This is interesting.  

The laws vary by country. The US requires that USCs use a US passport for entry/exit. Many countries have similar laws, but not all.

Edited February 19, 2020 by geowrian