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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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The two links below say police certificates are not required from Pakistan. Can someone who has been processed through Islamabad recently confirm this? Did you you have to submit a police certificate from Pakistan at NVC or Islamabad embassy?

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Supplements/Supplements_by_Post/ISL-Islamabad.html

 

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If you are older than 16 years of age:  Police certificates are not required from Pakistan. However, an original police certificate is required from any countries where you previously lived.  For more information on obtaining these certificates, visit Reciprocity by Country. If the first three items are all true, or the fourth item is true, you must obtain and bring a more recent police certificate to the interview:

  1. You are older than 16 years;
  2. Your stay in that country was more than a year; and
  3. You obtained a police certificate and submitted it to NVC more than one year ago; or
  4. You still live in the country that issued the police certificate and you submitted it to NVC more than one year ago. 

"

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Pakistan.html

 

"Pakistan does not have a nationwide system to track criminal activities.  Police Character Certificates are available for a fee from District Coordinating Offices.  However, they are not an accurate reflection of an individual's criminal record.  An applicant who has committed a crime in one district may be able to obtain a clean Character Certificate from that district or another.  Given the inaccuracy of these certificates, they are not required for consular processing."

 

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Our IR1 Journey So Far:
 

USCIS Stage:

  • Jan 19 2019: Sent I130 package
  • Jan 22 2019: Delivered
  • Feb 3 2019: I130 NOA1 (Priority Date: Jan 22, 2019)
  • Assigned to Nebraska Service Center ( 😶)
  • Sep 16 2019: I129f NOA1 PD
  • Oct 26 2019: I130 NOA2 (Notice date: Oct 21 2019)
  • Nov 04 2019: Sent to NVC

 

NVC Stage:

  • Nov 7: Received by NVC 
  • Dec 7: NVC sent email containing CEAC login details (Case Number)
  • Dec 7: AOS and IV bill payed
  • Dec 10: NVC withdrew money from Account
  • Dec 12: AOS and IV bills show paid on CEAC
  • Dec 16: AOS and IV documents submitted to NVC
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They are not required. Instead, you will need to be prepared for a lengthy AP time.

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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1 minute ago, JFH said:

They are not required. Instead, you will need to be prepared for a lengthy AP time.

That is regardless of the police certificate I presume.

 

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Our IR1 Journey So Far:
 

USCIS Stage:

  • Jan 19 2019: Sent I130 package
  • Jan 22 2019: Delivered
  • Feb 3 2019: I130 NOA1 (Priority Date: Jan 22, 2019)
  • Assigned to Nebraska Service Center ( 😶)
  • Sep 16 2019: I129f NOA1 PD
  • Oct 26 2019: I130 NOA2 (Notice date: Oct 21 2019)
  • Nov 04 2019: Sent to NVC

 

NVC Stage:

  • Nov 7: Received by NVC 
  • Dec 7: NVC sent email containing CEAC login details (Case Number)
  • Dec 7: AOS and IV bill payed
  • Dec 10: NVC withdrew money from Account
  • Dec 12: AOS and IV bills show paid on CEAC
  • Dec 16: AOS and IV documents submitted to NVC
  • Waiting

 

 

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39 minutes ago, SaeedA said:

That is regardless of the police certificate I presume.

Because of, in many respects. Because Pakistan does not have an effective method of maintaining criminal records, the US government has to resort to other methods to ascertain that a visa applicant meets the good character requirements for approval. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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It would be nice to hear from someone who has gone through Islamabad recently. Whether they submitted a police certificate from Pakistan or not.

 

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Our IR1 Journey So Far:
 

USCIS Stage:

  • Jan 19 2019: Sent I130 package
  • Jan 22 2019: Delivered
  • Feb 3 2019: I130 NOA1 (Priority Date: Jan 22, 2019)
  • Assigned to Nebraska Service Center ( 😶)
  • Sep 16 2019: I129f NOA1 PD
  • Oct 26 2019: I130 NOA2 (Notice date: Oct 21 2019)
  • Nov 04 2019: Sent to NVC

 

NVC Stage:

  • Nov 7: Received by NVC 
  • Dec 7: NVC sent email containing CEAC login details (Case Number)
  • Dec 7: AOS and IV bill payed
  • Dec 10: NVC withdrew money from Account
  • Dec 12: AOS and IV bills show paid on CEAC
  • Dec 16: AOS and IV documents submitted to NVC
  • Waiting

 

 

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1 hour ago, SaeedA said:

It would be nice to hear from someone who has gone through Islamabad recently. Whether they submitted a police certificate from Pakistan or not.

Why? Are you saying I’m lying that you don’t need one? Or that the Department of State website is lying that you don’t need one? 

 

You. Don’t. Need. A. Police. Certificate. From. Pakistan. 

 

Or do you want someone else to say it also? What difference will that make?

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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Because the records in pakistan are flawed, to say the least, the US does not TRUST the police certificates they are able to obtain. They will do their OWN checks, which will result in a very very very lengthy AP process for you.

 

submit it if you want, but it is not required and will not help expedite the process.

i 485, 130, EAD and AP

04/09/2019    NOA1 received/check cashed i 485 and 130 (direct adjustment)

11/7/2019      Interview- Norfolk

11/10/2019    APPROVED (notification rec'd 11/10, approval dated 11/8)

DONE FOR TWO YEARS!!! ;)

 

Filed everything ourselves with no RFE's or delays.

 

CR1 for Child under 21 (20 at time of filing)- Filed by LPR Spouse for his son

4/4/20     Mailed packet

4/12/20   NOA1 rec'd

10/14/21 (havent heard anything... when do i start to get worried?)

9/15/22 APPROVED! Now to wait for NVC and interview....

 

ROC

10/14/21 Mailed to AZ PO Box. Let the waiting begin. Again.

10/16/21 Received at PO Box

10/19/21 Received Text NOA1

10/23/21 Received Mailed NOA1

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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2 hours ago, JFH said:

Why? Are you saying I’m lying that you don’t need one? Or that the Department of State website is lying that you don’t need one? 

 

You. Don’t. Need. A. Police. Certificate. From. Pakistan. 

 

Or do you want someone else to say it also? What difference will that make?

Didn't mean to offend you. Have a great day.

 

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Our IR1 Journey So Far:
 

USCIS Stage:

  • Jan 19 2019: Sent I130 package
  • Jan 22 2019: Delivered
  • Feb 3 2019: I130 NOA1 (Priority Date: Jan 22, 2019)
  • Assigned to Nebraska Service Center ( 😶)
  • Sep 16 2019: I129f NOA1 PD
  • Oct 26 2019: I130 NOA2 (Notice date: Oct 21 2019)
  • Nov 04 2019: Sent to NVC

 

NVC Stage:

  • Nov 7: Received by NVC 
  • Dec 7: NVC sent email containing CEAC login details (Case Number)
  • Dec 7: AOS and IV bill payed
  • Dec 10: NVC withdrew money from Account
  • Dec 12: AOS and IV bills show paid on CEAC
  • Dec 16: AOS and IV documents submitted to NVC
  • Waiting

 

 

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3 hours ago, SaeedA said:

It would be nice to hear from someone who has gone through Islamabad recently. Whether they submitted a police certificate from Pakistan or not.

If you want a targeted audience you should post in the regional forum, not the general IR one (especially if you just dismiss answers from people who do actually know what they’re talking about). 

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3 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

If you want a targeted audience you should post in the regional forum, not the general IR one (especially if you just dismiss answers from people who do actually know what they’re talking about). 

Okay

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Our IR1 Journey So Far:
 

USCIS Stage:

  • Jan 19 2019: Sent I130 package
  • Jan 22 2019: Delivered
  • Feb 3 2019: I130 NOA1 (Priority Date: Jan 22, 2019)
  • Assigned to Nebraska Service Center ( 😶)
  • Sep 16 2019: I129f NOA1 PD
  • Oct 26 2019: I130 NOA2 (Notice date: Oct 21 2019)
  • Nov 04 2019: Sent to NVC

 

NVC Stage:

  • Nov 7: Received by NVC 
  • Dec 7: NVC sent email containing CEAC login details (Case Number)
  • Dec 7: AOS and IV bill payed
  • Dec 10: NVC withdrew money from Account
  • Dec 12: AOS and IV bills show paid on CEAC
  • Dec 16: AOS and IV documents submitted to NVC
  • Waiting

 

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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Its vary on case yo case , they dont need a pc in pakistan n i was in AP for exact 30 days , so hope for the best 

Interview Date is november 18, 2014 :dancing: :goofy: :idea:

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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8 hours ago, SaeedA said:

 

The two links below say police certificates are not required from Pakistan. Can someone who has been processed through Islamabad recently confirm this? Did you you have to submit a police certificate from Pakistan at NVC or Islamabad embassy?

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Supplements/Supplements_by_Post/ISL-Islamabad.html

 

"

If you are older than 16 years of age:  Police certificates are not required from Pakistan. However, an original police certificate is required from any countries where you previously lived.  For more information on obtaining these certificates, visit Reciprocity by Country. If the first three items are all true, or the fourth item is true, you must obtain and bring a more recent police certificate to the interview:

  1. You are older than 16 years;
  2. Your stay in that country was more than a year; and
  3. You obtained a police certificate and submitted it to NVC more than one year ago; or
  4. You still live in the country that issued the police certificate and you submitted it to NVC more than one year ago. 

"

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Pakistan.html

 

"Pakistan does not have a nationwide system to track criminal activities.  Police Character Certificates are available for a fee from District Coordinating Offices.  However, they are not an accurate reflection of an individual's criminal record.  An applicant who has committed a crime in one district may be able to obtain a clean Character Certificate from that district or another.  Given the inaccuracy of these certificates, they are not required for consular processing."

It says they don't need a PCC, but my husband got it anyway. The embassy ending up taking it when he showed them

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Not needed. You have the official source saying it's not needed. Not sure what else there is to say. You can bring one if you want, but it won't help or hurt your case.

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Here is a several  (174) page thread regarding Pakistan AP

Here are the reviews for that embassy

https://www.visajourney.com/reviews/index.php?cnty=Pakistan&cty=&dfilter=5

And here is the appropriate regional forum

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/91-asia-south/

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Pakistan
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4 minutes ago, NikLR said:

Here is a several  (174) page thread regarding Pakistan AP

Here are the reviews for that embassy

https://www.visajourney.com/reviews/index.php?cnty=Pakistan&cty=&dfilter=5

And here is the appropriate regional forum

https://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/91-asia-south/

Thanks. This is helpful. 

 

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Our IR1 Journey So Far:
 

USCIS Stage:

  • Jan 19 2019: Sent I130 package
  • Jan 22 2019: Delivered
  • Feb 3 2019: I130 NOA1 (Priority Date: Jan 22, 2019)
  • Assigned to Nebraska Service Center ( 😶)
  • Sep 16 2019: I129f NOA1 PD
  • Oct 26 2019: I130 NOA2 (Notice date: Oct 21 2019)
  • Nov 04 2019: Sent to NVC

 

NVC Stage:

  • Nov 7: Received by NVC 
  • Dec 7: NVC sent email containing CEAC login details (Case Number)
  • Dec 7: AOS and IV bill payed
  • Dec 10: NVC withdrew money from Account
  • Dec 12: AOS and IV bills show paid on CEAC
  • Dec 16: AOS and IV documents submitted to NVC
  • Waiting

 

 

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