AOS and the K2 Visa

[TucsonBill 0]

My wife applied for and received her SS# right after we got married, (using her married name). The local Social Security office would not issue a SS# for her daughter saying that K2 visa holders are not eligible, that they need to submit EAD.

I have read elsewhere that they can get an SS# with EAD OR LPR... is LPR same as the green card? I don't see any sense in applying for EAD for a seven year old, but I would like her to have an SS# as opposed to just a tax ID number.

My question is, can she get her SS# after we complete AOS with her green card or MUST we file the EAD paperwork?

Bill

[sunandmoon 450]

from my understanding, once our daughters have conditional green card, can apply for SSN.

[sunandmoon 450]

opps. now I'm little confused, read other posts on VJ that do need to be LPR, or have an EAD.

Edited June 11, 2007 by Roy and Yazi

[payxibka 10,047]

Greencard is synonomous with LPR

[YuAndDan 153]

GREEN-Card is also EAD, so YES you can apply for SSN using the green-card.

Also LPR=Green-card=I-551

[Richard&Maria 0]

Hello,

I have two boys with K-2 status, ages 12 and 16. Neither could/can apply for a SS number; we checked into the details some time ago. My wife's K-1 was able to. We will attempt a SS number for the older boy after conditional permanent status is achieved, since I would like him to be able to work part-time during high school to show him how to earn and save his own money. I am not positive we will be successful.

My understanding is that my youngest cannot apply at all unless there is a reason to be working, so with even part-time work years away, he will have to do with a TIN from the IRS. K-1 status has "allowance" to work, but not K-2. A 12-yr-old or a 7-yr-old can't be working anytime soon, so I think the EAD form and its cost appears worthless for those situations. The Social Security Office-issued number is justified for work, otherwise it appears that an IRS Office-issued Tax Identification Number is all we can use.

We go for interviews on AOS in early July and I plan to ask some direct questions of the USCIS then. We'll post if I learn anything different.

Richard of Richard&Maria

[Yodrak 7]

Bill,

The green card is the LPR ID card.

You're right - a 7 year-old has no need to be EA. I waited to get my stepson a SS# and card when he became an LPR. He pplied for his SSN on the same visit when my wife applied to have the notation about USCIS employment authorization removed from her SS card.

Yodrak

My wife applied for and received her SS# right after we got married, (using her married name). The local Social Security office would not issue a SS# for her daughter saying that K2 visa holders are not eligible, that they need to submit EAD.

I have read elsewhere that they can get an SS# with EAD OR LPR... is LPR same as the green card? I don't see any sense in applying for EAD for a seven year old, but I would like her to have an SS# as opposed to just a tax ID number.

My question is, can she get her SS# after we complete AOS with her green card or MUST we file the EAD paperwork?

Bill

[YuAndDan 153]

Hello,

I have two boys with K-2 status, ages 12 and 16. Neither could/can apply for a SS number; we checked into the details some time ago. My wife's K-1 was able to. We will attempt a SS number for the older boy after conditional permanent status is achieved, since I would like him to be able to work part-time during high school to show him how to earn and save his own money. I am not positive we will be successful.

My understanding is that my youngest cannot apply at all unless there is a reason to be working, so with even part-time work years away, he will have to do with a TIN from the IRS. K-1 status has "allowance" to work, but not K-2. A 12-yr-old or a 7-yr-old can't be working anytime soon, so I think the EAD form and its cost appears worthless for those situations. The Social Security Office-issued number is justified for work, otherwise it appears that an IRS Office-issued Tax Identification Number is all we can use.

We go for interviews on AOS in early July and I plan to ask some direct questions of the USCIS then. We'll post if I learn anything different.

Richard of Richard&Maria

As soon as your youngest obtains LPR status you can and should apply for SSN, SSN in itself is not work authorization. In the USA as soon a citizen has a child born, they are required to apply for SSN, age does not matter for getting an SSN.

[raymaga 25]

My K-2 daughter could not apply for a SSN until she had her GC. Then, she took her GC to the SSA office, and her card came 6 days later.

[Richard&Maria 0]

Thanks YuAndDAn. My remaining question is:

after a successful AOS interview this coming July Maria and our boys will be "conditional permanent residents" for two more years. Is this the same as "legal permanent residents" in the eyes of the Social Security system? Worst case is that I use a TIN supplied by the IRS for one or both boys.

We've already had "lotsofun" at four state offices getting Maria a Wisconsin state ID card (driver license later). WI has new laws in effect since April and no two state offices were giving the same story for requirements. Finally found that Wisconsin considers Maria a "legal tempory resident" as stated on her new WI card and we still are not sure if this changes after the USCIS interview in July or the final one two years hence. At least the WI card is good until 2011.

Richard of Richard&Maria

[Yodrak 7]

Richard,

In the eyes of anyone and everyone. A LPR with conditions is nevertheless a LPR.

Yodrak

Thanks YuAndDAn. My remaining question is:

after a successful AOS interview this coming July Maria and our boys will be "conditional permanent residents" for two more years. Is this the same as "legal permanent residents" in the eyes of the Social Security system? ....

Richard of Richard&Maria

[payxibka 10,047]

A greencard is a greencard regardless if it is "conditional" or not.... So yes, they have attained LPR status.