NVC Rumors

[Sea Leslie 430]

Hi,

 

I wanted to start a thread about things we may or may not have heard about the NVC. I think it would help clear up some questions for a few people. Let's start off with some true or false statements...

 

True/False: Some cases are approved in a week or less after submitting documents

True/False: NVC reps. must meet a quota each day regarding Case Completes

True/False: Clicking on the submit button or resubmitting documents pushes your case to the very beginning of the process

True/False: Once your case is review it is not reviewed by the same person each time after a resubmit

[USS_Voyager 1,972]

13 minutes ago, Sea Leslie said:

True/False: Some cases are approved in a week or less after submitting documents

False. I've never heard of that. 

 

14 minutes ago, Sea Leslie said:

True/False: NVC reps. must meet a quota each day regarding Case Completes

False. I don't think so. 

 

14 minutes ago, Sea Leslie said:

True/False: Clicking on the submit button or resubmitting documents pushes your case to the very beginning of the process

False. 

 

14 minutes ago, Sea Leslie said:

True/False: Once your case is review it is not reviewed by the same person each time after a resubmit

It is not "always" reviewed by the same person. It could be. 

[NikLR 13,227]

Lets be honest, Unless someone works at the NVC, we don't truly know what is happening.  We can make educated guesses and probably get rid of things that sound outlandish.  But once upon a time, the world was flat and we were the centre of the universe, and anything contradictory to those statements was considered outlandish and heresey. 

[Sea Leslie 430]

31 minutes ago, NikLR said:

Lets be honest, Unless someone works at the NVC, we don't truly know what is happening.  We can make educated guesses and probably get rid of things that sound outlandish.  But once upon a time, the world was flat and we were the centre of the universe, and anything contradictory to those statements was considered outlandish and heresey. 

Thanks and this is very true, but I get so much mixed information from everyone's experience with this process. 

[Sea Leslie 430]

38 minutes ago, USS_Voyager said:

False. I've never heard of that. 

 

False. I don't think so. 

 

False. 

 

It is not "always" reviewed by the same person. It could be. 

Thanks for the feedback, I can't imagine that any of our VJ members would be dishonest, but I hear so many difference... it's like a cruel game of some sort 😞

[JeanneAdil 6,489]

I would say false to 1st 3 also

no idea about the 4th

 

but different responses from various members come from different embassies and situations/  none of us go thru exactly the same timeframe 

none of us have exactly the same issues as yours (like ages of both,  religions of both,  children of both,  divorces and death of other spouses as yours) because no 2 people are alike

it is always best to review your particular embassy and read those reviews 

 

but the basic process and steps are correct from here and USCIS site

 

[Sea Leslie 430]

10 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

I would say false to 1st 3 also

no idea about the 4th

 

but different responses from various members come from different embassies and situations/  none of us go thru exactly the same timeframe 

none of us have exactly the same issues as yours (like ages of both,  religions of both,  children of both,  divorces and death of other spouses as yours) because no 2 people are alike

it is always best to review your particular embassy and read those reviews 

 

but the basic process and steps are correct from here and USCIS site

 

I agree, every's situation is so unique... I think that is why there are so many different answers. I also think it's strange that some of the same information is requested twice through out the entire process. 

[Sea Leslie 430]

1 hour ago, USS_Voyager said:

False. I've never heard of that. 

 

False. I don't think so. 

 

False. 

 

It is not "always" reviewed by the same person. It could be. 

Oh and I had someone from VJ tell me that their documents were approved three days after submitting for the month of October... How is that even possible?

Edited December 9, 2019 by Sea Leslie
Correction

[angelbrown 195]

2 hours ago, Sea Leslie said:

True/False: Clicking on the submit button or resubmitting documents pushes your case to the very beginning of the process

I’m assuming the process is similar to where I work (Dept of VA) but not necessarily.

Adding additional documents mean they have to go back and review what you’ve submitted or resubmitted. So maybe not push it back to the beginning but does push it back some.

 

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True/False: Once your case is review it is not reviewed by the same person each time after a resubmit

May not be reviewed by the same person. That person isn’t putting other cases on hold to wait for you to submit/resubmit documents. Our claims are put into a national work queue and worked in order of receipt. 

It would be nice if they did this☝🏽so claims would be worked in order rather than by station. Husband’s ROC still waiting while others submitted later have been approved. And just the opposite with N400, moves faster than some others🤷🏽‍♀️

Edited December 9, 2019 by angelbrown

[Sea Leslie 430]

10 minutes ago, angelbrown said:

I’m assuming the process is similar to where I work (Dept of VA) but not necessarily.

Adding additional documents mean they have to go back and review what you’ve submitted or resubmitted. So maybe not push it back to the beginning but does push it back some.

 

May not be reviewed by the same person. That person isn’t putting other cases on hold to wait for you to submit/resubmit documents. Our claims are put into a national work queue and worked in order of receipt. 

It would be nice if they did this☝🏽so claims would be worked in order rather than by station. Husband’s ROC still waiting while others submitted later have been approved. And just the opposite with N400, moves faster than some others🤷🏽‍♀️

Wow, seems like there are so many variables and oddly enough... I find comfort it that 🤔

[USS_Voyager 1,972]

19 minutes ago, Sea Leslie said:

Wow, seems like there are so many variables and oddly enough... I find comfort it that 🤔

Yes, you have to realize the NVC by itself is a massive operation. NVC employs more than 700 people and processes anywhere from 500,000 to 750,000 petitions every years. So I think the most efficient way is to release the case back to the queue and whoever available first, picks it up.

 

The figures I quoted was from 2015, so I can only imagine it goes up by now. 

[geowrian 22,337]

5 hours ago, Sea Leslie said:

True/False: Some cases are approved in a week or less after submitting documents

"Some" is a very low bar. As such, I would say "True" as I have heard of at least 1 case that has been processed within a week. I would not say that is the norm.

 

5 hours ago, Sea Leslie said:

True/False: NVC reps. must meet a quota each day regarding Case Completes

Public information does not support that assertion.

It's not unreasonable to believe that NVC keeps a set of KPIs, nor that they would include those types of metrics in an evaluation of some types of employees. But that's not a quota anyway.

It would take somebody on the inside - likely management - to affirm the existence of any quotas to make this "True". I can't say it is definitively false either.

 

5 hours ago, Sea Leslie said:

True/False: Clicking on the submit button or resubmitting documents pushes your case to the very beginning of the process

Public information does not support that assertion.

There is a logical argument that submitting new documents would not cut in front of somebody else. Although if not reviewed yet and it's an electronic submission, there is no harm either.

 

5 hours ago, Sea Leslie said:

True/False: Once your case is review it is not reviewed by the same person each time after a resubmit

Public information does not support that assertion.

It would seem inefficient to enforce this due to turnover, vacation, etc. alone. Unlike somebody like an IO who evaluates a case and adjudicates the petition, NVC employees only do a basic review of key documents - in a vacuum with regards to their case as a whole - in an effort to streamline the process once it reaches the consulate. As such, there is not a strong reason to believe that a case at NVC is assigned to a specific individual.

[dwheels76 5,468]

5 hours ago, Sea Leslie said:

Hi,

 

I wanted to start a thread about things we may or may not have heard about the NVC. I think it would help clear up some questions for a few people. Let's start off with some true or false statements...

 

True/False: Some cases are approved in a week or less after submitting documents

True/False: NVC reps. must meet a quota each day regarding Case Completes

True/False: Clicking on the submit button or resubmitting documents pushes your case to the very beginning of the process

True/False: Once your case is review it is not reviewed by the same person each time after a resubmit

1. I'm sure it was a Expedite people never realize that.
2. Every office has guidelines of what is expected of them so that wouldn't be so far fetch to get a certain amount done per day.

3. Resubmitting documents can put you anywhere in line. That's why it's always best to call and get a supervisor on the line especially when people have been submitting and resubmitting so much.

4. who knows we don't work there. I am sure like at USCIS you are assigned your cases. Makes sense. But there's always the supervisor who has access to them all.

 

Doesn't really matter in the end what is true what is not. There's a process to follow and that's what you must do. The inline system has made NVC slower than ever instead of faster. I was at NVC Dec. 2015 and was done in 4 weeks and that was mailing in 300 pages from Nigeria.

Wait you must.

[Sea Leslie 430]

2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

"Some" is a very low bar. As such, I would say "True" as I have heard of at least 1 case that has been processed within a week. I would not say that is the norm.

 

Public information does not support that assertion.

It's not unreasonable to believe that NVC keeps a set of KPIs, nor that they would include those types of metrics in an evaluation of some types of employees. But that's not a quota anyway.

It would take somebody on the inside - likely management - to affirm the existence of any quotas to make this "True". I can't say it is definitively false either.

 

Public information does not support that assertion.

There is a logical argument that submitting new documents would not cut in front of somebody else. Although if not reviewed yet and it's an electronic submission, there is no harm either.

 

Public information does not support that assertion.

It would seem inefficient to enforce this due to turnover, vacation, etc. alone. Unlike somebody like an IO who evaluates a case and adjudicates the petition, NVC employees only do a basic review of key documents - in a vacuum with regards to their case as a whole - in an effort to streamline the process once it reaches the consulate. As such, there is not a strong reason to believe that a case at NVC is assigned to a specific individual.

 

👏 Your responses are always amazing. I like to keep an open mind and many of the answers help me feel that my process time is normal. When I hear something so out of the norm, makes me feel like I did something wrong, or maybe I should be doing something different. Thanks so much 😁

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sea Leslie 430]

2 minutes ago, dwheels76 said:

1. I'm sure it was a Expedite people never realize that.
2. Every office has guidelines of what is expected of them so that wouldn't be so far fetch to get a certain amount done per day.

3. Resubmitting documents can put you anywhere in line. That's why it's always best to call and get a supervisor on the line especially when people have been submitting and resubmitting so much.

4. who knows we don't work there. I am sure like at USCIS you are assigned your cases. Makes sense. But there's always the supervisor who has access to them all.

 

Doesn't really matter in the end what is true what is not. There's a process to follow and that's what you must do. The inline system has made NVC slower than ever instead of faster. I was at NVC Dec. 2015 and was done in 4 weeks and that was mailing in 300 pages from Nigeria.

Wait you must.

😮  Yesss , I forgot about the expedite option... I did not include that into my thought process, and that goes to show that everyone's case is unique and every NVC employee is different.