Visitor Visa B2: Person/Entity Paying for Your Trip

[wimpog 7]

1 minute ago, geowrian said:

They would be considerations. Generally, the elderly (referring to those of retirement age and up here) tend to not want to uproot their entire life to move without a compelling reason. Not that many others haven't done exactly that....it would be favorable IMO, assuming there is other family back home.

Her husband is staying, also another child in the home country.

 

[Amadia 711]

2 hours ago, wimpog said:

Does age matter? Also, does it matter that she's retired?

My parents were denied their tourist visa the first time they applied because my father was/is retired from his job of 34 years. The officer decided that my parents intended to stay even though they had multiple reasons to show they were returning back home. They waited almost one year before reapplying and were successful without being asked for as much as one piece of evidence to prove their ties to their home country. Each applicant's experience is different and everyone explains their answers to the best that they can manage....it is up to the interviewing officer to determine if the applicant will be placed on the Approved list...or the Denied list....every embassy has a quota to make.

I do not mean to scare you with all this but it is just things to expect and not be alarmed if they happen to your MIL.

[wimpog 7]

5 minutes ago, Amadia said:

My parents were denied their tourist visa the first time they applied because my father was/is retired from his job of 34 years. The officer decided that my parents intended to stay even though they had multiple reasons to show they were returning back home. They waited almost one year before reapplying and were successful without being asked for as much as one piece of evidence to prove their ties to their home country. Each applicant's experience is different and everyone explains their answers to the best that they can manage....it is up to the interviewing officer to determine if the applicant will be placed on the Approved list...or the Denied list....every embassy has a quota to make.

I do not mean to scare you with all this but it is just things to expect and not be alarmed if they happen to your MIL.

If her husband is staying and she also has another child in the home country, is that a reasonable indication she will return back home?

[Amadia 711]

Just now, wimpog said:

If her husband is staying and she also has another child in the home country, is that a reasonable indication she will return back home?

Truthfully, what is reasonable to us may not be reasonable ENOUGH to the interviewing officer. I have seen people with house, land, permanent jobs, families, kids, etc,. be denied a tourist visa. I have also seen people with house, land, permanent jobs, families, kids, etc,. also leave those things behind and illegally made a life in the USA.

It does not mean that this will happen to your MIL but - again - things to be cautious about.

[wimpog 7]

2 minutes ago, Amadia said:

Truthfully, what is reasonable to us may not be reasonable ENOUGH to the interviewing officer. I have seen people with house, land, permanent jobs, families, kids, etc,. be denied a tourist visa. I have also seen people with house, land, permanent jobs, families, kids, etc,. also leave those things behind and illegally made a life in the USA.

It does not mean that this will happen to your MIL but - again - things to be cautious about.

Thank you!

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

33 minutes ago, Amadia said:

My parents were denied their tourist visa the first time they applied because my father was/is retired from his job of 34 years. The officer decided that my parents intended to stay even though they had multiple reasons to show they were returning back home. They waited almost one year before reapplying and were successful without being asked for as much as one piece of evidence to prove their ties to their home country. Each applicant's experience is different and everyone explains their answers to the best that they can manage....it is up to the interviewing officer to determine if the applicant will be placed on the Approved list...or the Denied list....every embassy has a quota to make.

I do not mean to scare you with all this but it is just things to expect and not be alarmed if they happen to your MIL.

 

27 minutes ago, Amadia said:

Truthfully, what is reasonable to us may not be reasonable ENOUGH to the interviewing officer. I have seen people with house, land, permanent jobs, families, kids, etc,. be denied a tourist visa. I have also seen people with house, land, permanent jobs, families, kids, etc,. also leave those things behind and illegally made a life in the USA.

It does not mean that this will happen to your MIL but - again - things to be cautious about.

 

Great posts other than the nonsense about a “quota”. No embassy has a quota, but it’s a popular conspiracy theory among those who can’t understand why they were denied.  Your second example above also helps show why some people get denied even if they think everything looks good.

[Boiler 45,516]

What is this quota, is a number, a percentage of applications?

[SalishSea 17,829]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

What is this quota, is a number, a percentage of applications?

Please check YouTube.

[Boiler 45,516]

29 minutes ago, Jorgedig said:

Please check YouTube.

Will do.

[Amadia 711]

2 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

the nonsense about a “quota”. No embassy has a quota

^^^ This quota was told to me by an interviewing officer in the Trinidad & Tobago embassy. Not really nonsense if it came from the inside and while I know not to believe everything I hear....the daily number of approvals against the number of denials speak volumes of their internal quota  

 

2 hours ago, Boiler said:

What is this quota, is a number, a percentage of applications?

Apparently, it is a set number of applicants chosen from the applications submitted to the embassy when you file your DS-160. It is not chosen by any specific basis (financial status, retiree, etc.) but by the reviewing officer's discretion.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

20 minutes ago, Amadia said:

^^^ This quota was told to me by an interviewing officer in the Trinidad & Tobago embassy. Not really nonsense if it came from the inside and while I know not to believe everything I hear....the daily number of approvals against the number of denials speak volumes of their internal quota  

 

Apparently, it is a set number of applicants chosen from the applications submitted to the embassy when you file your DS-160. It is not chosen by any specific basis (financial status, retiree, etc.) but by the reviewing officer's discretion.

Rotfl someone pulling your leg in a big way dear, what would your response be if I told you that I was told by someone in another embassy that the concept of a quota is rubbish? Hmm?

What do you suppose would the purpose of such a quota be?

how does the concept of a quota fit in with dynamics of # denials used to ascertain who’s in and who’s out of VWP, how would that even make sense as the basis if there was a quota?

If there was a quota, then the denial rate would be a perfect static percent each year per nationality, it’s not, we get the numbers, it’s neither round numbers nor static. I call bull poop. 

Edited December 10, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[Amadia 711]

2 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Rotfl someone pulling your leg in a big way dear, what would your response be if I told you that I was told by someone in another embassy that the concept of a quota is rubbish? Hmm?

What do you suppose would the purpose of such a quota be?

If there was a quota, then the denial rate would be a perfect static percent each year, it’s not, we get the numbers, it’s neither round numbers nor static. I call bull poop.

Do you really plan to spend your night ridiculing me on something that I was told by an embassy officer? Okay, have at it......

[Boiler 45,516]

Males you wonder why there are such big variances between Consulates when they are working to a quota.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

17 minutes ago, Amadia said:

Do you really plan to spend your night ridiculing me on something that I was told by an embassy officer? Okay, have at it......

Nope, not wasting my time on this nonsense any more for sure.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

13 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Males you wonder why there are such big variances between Consulates when they are working to a quota.

Or how they can use % denials to figure out which countries are in VWP, if they are predetermining those on a quota anyway. Lol