Prior visitor and student visa refusals

[sukrd 0]

Well we are preparing for our (her) interview in RIO. Well here is the situation. Years ago she befriended an older couple that was visiting from Arizona. They kept in touch they invited her to visit and offered to pay for the trip. She applied for a visitor Visa..refused. A couple of years later they offered her to come and go to college. Applied and refused again.

I am sure there is a record of these on file and we also put them on the Ds-156. Do you think they will make a big deal out of this? Anyone with a SO that had visa refusals (tourist,student)? What did the CO say about it, if anything?

[Ta Ta 1]

No it will not affect you at all.

[KHURRAM SERAJ 0]

My wife had a Visitor and student refusal and did not have an issue at the interview

[TimsDaisy 0]

Those other visas are issued based on a different set of assumptions than the fiance visa. Both of those others depend on the applicant proving to the State Dept's satisfaction that he/she will go home after visiting/studying in the US. Since the fiance visa, obviously, is based on someone wanting to remain in the US, the aspects the State Dept will look at are different.

So long as you have all your legit-relationship ducks in a row, you will be fine.

[Yodrak 7]

kino,

It depends on why the previous visa applications were denied, and you don't say why.

Yodrak

Well we are preparing for our (her) interview in RIO. Well here is the situation. Years ago she befriended an older couple that was visiting from Arizona. They kept in touch they invited her to visit and offered to pay for the trip. She applied for a visitor Visa..refused. A couple of years later they offered her to come and go to college. Applied and refused again.

I am sure there is a record of these on file and we also put them on the Ds-156. Do you think they will make a big deal out of this? .....

[Ta Ta 1]

The only problem would be this case scenario :

You are engaged and now want a tourist visa to visit your fiance.

On the B2 application (form157) you mark "no fiance" because you have heard that you will not likely get the tourist visa with a fiance here and say you want to just visit whomever or whatever as reason to visit.

Then after the B2 gets denied anyway you gather proof for the embassy during your K1 journey that you indeed were engaged BEFORE the tourist visa attempt, all the while forgetting that you marked "no fiance" on the 157 tourist application.

Now they will cross reference the forms and see the contradicting engagement date.

Now you have some explaining to do.

If you have answered all questions truthfully you will have no problem.

Long story short if you lie on the tourist form 157 about not having a fiance in the US and to hide that fact then it will come out later if you submit proof of engagement date for the embassy that says otherwise.

[sukrd 0]

Thanks for the responses. YODRAK I believe they were denied because of insufficent financial means. Not sure if that is the correct terminology, but you get the picture. On her own she could never afford to visit or go to school. But as mentioned above an elderly couple she met invited her and offered to pay. Seemed a little strange to me, but some people got money. From her description they seem nice. Every year or so they have been visiting this guy in Brazil called John of god. a supposed healer. To each his own...

[Yodrak 7]

kino,

In which case there should be no effect on the K1 visa application. Don't know why in the previous cases the consular officer did not accept the offer to sponsor - maybe the couple didn't adequately support their offer of financial sponsorship.

In any event, the same thing will apply to her K1 visa application - if she doesn't have sufficient funds to come to the USA and support herself for a while then she will need a suitable sponsor. Typically but not necessarily you, her petitioner.

Yodrak

Thanks for the responses. YODRAK I believe they were denied because of insufficent financial means. Not sure if that is the correct terminology, but you get the picture. On her own she could never afford to visit or go to school. But as mentioned above an elderly couple she met invited her and offered to pay. Seemed a little strange to me, but some people got money. From her description they seem nice. Every year or so they have been visiting this guy in Brazil called John of god. a supposed healer. To each his own...

[sukrd 0]

Yodrak, I do not believe the couple did any official type of sponsorship. I think they only offered her to come and visit then later offered to have her attend college in Sedona AZ. I don't think her and the elderly couple new about how complicated the Visa process can be. I don't think either of them knew about "sponsorship". Being from a 1st world counrty, I don't think the majority of Americans realize how difficult it is to travel for most in the world. Being American, all we have to do is buy a ticket apply for a Visa( which a lot of times we can do through the mail) or in some cases we don't even need a Visa.

This all happened several years before I met her. I only found out because for the paperwork you have to declare prior Visa applications. I didn't drill her about every detail of the prior applications. I asked a few questions and left it at that. From what I am reading, I don't think it should be a problem.

Tomorrow I plan to call, Brazilian Valentines Day, I will let her know what everyone said. She has been a nervous wreck. She has never checked out this sight, so I let her know what I find out. We have just started preparing for the interview with the questions I found on this site. The embassy reviews have been very informative. I have relayed to her what to expect, not only in the actual interview, but from the time you stand in line outside and a couple of hotels near the consulate as she is not from Rio. She has had it easy up until now. I have been doing all the papers and research. I think the prior visits to the embassy and refusals have left a sour taste. She hasn't said anything, but I can tell she is a little scared. From the reviews, it seems like the interview is not too difficult and for the most part, positive. It seems like there is a recurring theme, WHO, HOW, WHEN (meet). and a few other basic questions. I told her, practice makes perfect, so I told her to practice with her mother(acting as the interviewer). Got the idea from a poster here. Great knowledge and advise here. Thanks all.