Illegal immigrants from neighboring countries raising concerns in Latin America

[Robor007 0]

Mass migrations are driven by economic forces, therefore addressing the economic disparities between the US and our neighboring country, Mexico, would have the most impact on curbing illegal immigration (in this US).

That's Mexico's job, not ours.

We share that responsibility, IMO.

Why?

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Mass migrations are driven by economic forces, therefore addressing the economic disparities between the US and our neighboring country, Mexico, would have the most impact on curbing illegal immigration (in this US).

That's Mexico's job, not ours.

We share that responsibility, IMO.

Why?

If you wouldn't agree with any altruistic reasons, then I hope you can at least see that doing so would be benefit our own self interests. Poverty, no matter what country, is a condition that the US has traditionally felt a moral obligation to combat. We'd do well to address it when it's in our own backyard.

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... I hope you can at least see that doing so would be benefit our own self interests. Poverty, no matter what country, is a condition that the US has traditionally felt a moral obligation to combat.

Feeling a moral obligation != self interest.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

... I hope you can at least see that doing so would be benefit our own self interests. Poverty, no matter what country, is a condition that the US has traditionally felt a moral obligation to combat.

Feeling a moral obligation != self interest.

I don't think in every case where the US has given humanitarian aid was because of our own self interest. I believe that altruism is real.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Of course it's real. But this nation isn't as wealthy as people say it is... we're an empire built on debt. We need to get out of all these foreign entanglements (aid, wars, etc. all of it), not get sucked deeper in.

[natty bumppo 297]

Of course it's real. But this nation isn't as wealthy as people say it is... we're an empire built on debt. We need to get out of all these foreign entanglements (aid, wars, etc. all of it), not get sucked deeper in.

we do that ... think of the money we'll have for export transportation

[JoeMama 0]

Of course it's real. But this nation isn't as wealthy as people say it is... we're an empire built on debt. We need to get out of all these foreign entanglements (aid, wars, etc. all of it), not get sucked deeper in.

Yes. Mastercard, Visa, and American Express has it's limits.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Of course it's real. But this nation isn't as wealthy as people say it is... we're an empire built on debt. We need to get out of all these foreign entanglements (aid, wars, etc. all of it), not get sucked deeper in.

Overall, I agree, but in the case of a neighboring country in which we're economically intertwined by a trade agreement - whatever focus we put into remedying Mexico's economic woes would be money worth spent, especially in comparison to spending billions of dollars in tightening up the border.

[Heracles 417]

Mass migrations are driven by economic forces, therefore addressing the economic disparities between the US and our neighboring country, Mexico, would have the most impact on curbing illegal immigration (in this US).

That's Mexico's job, not ours.

We share that responsibility, IMO.

Because Mexico is so so poor. I mean having the 3rd richest man in the world and all. Yep it is Nafta and America which is to blame.. Yep that's it..

[Heracles 417]

Of course it's real. But this nation isn't as wealthy as people say it is... we're an empire built on debt. We need to get out of all these foreign entanglements (aid, wars, etc. all of it), not get sucked deeper in.

Overall, I agree, but in the case of a neighboring country in which we're economically intertwined by a trade agreement - whatever focus we put into remedying Mexico's economic woes would be money worth spent, especially in comparison to spending billions of dollars in tightening up the border.

Come on. You know we would not need to spend ###### if anyone caught employing illegals was fined and jailed accordingly.. Why is it no proposal discusses such measures in the democrat controlled congress and house..

Edited June 12, 2007 by Infidel

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Of course it's real. But this nation isn't as wealthy as people say it is... we're an empire built on debt. We need to get out of all these foreign entanglements (aid, wars, etc. all of it), not get sucked deeper in.

Overall, I agree, but in the case of a neighboring country in which we're economically intertwined by a trade agreement - whatever focus we put into remedying Mexico's economic woes would be money worth spent, especially in comparison to spending billions of dollars in tightening up the border.

Sure, throw more money at it. Not enough that we throw billions each year at it as it is. I've read reports not long ago that the best faring nations in Africa, for example, are those that receive the fewest aid dollars. Seems to help folks focus on standing on their own feet rather than hopelessly sliding into dependency and it doesn't leave corrupt regimes billions of dollars to waste on arms and such #######. There's some convincing arguments out there for limiting the direct financial aid to many developing nations - odds are they might be better off without it. Come to think of it, this might just work for Mexico too. Of course, billions go south year after year not as foreign aid but via Western Union building dependencies. Those dollars while maybe affording folks some luxuries of short term benefit stifle many people's ability to stand on their feet and get back to the basics.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Mass migrations are driven by economic forces, therefore addressing the economic disparities between the US and our neighboring country, Mexico, would have the most impact on curbing illegal immigration (in this US).

That's Mexico's job, not ours.

We share that responsibility, IMO.

Because Mexico is so so poor. I mean having the 3rd richest man in the world and all. Yep it is Nafta and America which is to blame.. Yep that's it..

It's not about blame but understanding the reasons.

This is what bishops and economic trade officials stated:

As currently structured, free trade agreements tend to favor multinational companies, the economic elites in Latin America and the industrialized countries, said a statement by the Department of Justice and Solidarity of the Latin American bishops’ council.

Landless rural farmworkers, small businessmen, women, youths, the elderly and the handicapped often lose out under such agreements, said the document.

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"The current economic model in our region — which tends to concentrate economic, political and social power in the hands of a few — has notably put the brakes on the consolidation of integral and sustainable human development," it said.

http://www.bilaterals.org/article.php3?id_article=643

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Of course it's real. But this nation isn't as wealthy as people say it is... we're an empire built on debt. We need to get out of all these foreign entanglements (aid, wars, etc. all of it), not get sucked deeper in.

Overall, I agree, but in the case of a neighboring country in which we're economically intertwined by a trade agreement - whatever focus we put into remedying Mexico's economic woes would be money worth spent, especially in comparison to spending billions of dollars in tightening up the border.

Well there's only so much we can realistically do - the US can't be expected to run Mexico's economy from the other side of the border...

[Heracles 417]

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Sure, throw more money at it. Not enough that we throw billions each year at it as it is. I've read reports not long ago that the best faring nations in Africa, for example, are those that receive the fewest aid dollars.

We obviously have to give them more money so their richest guy can become the worlds richest guy. Obviously that guy should give absolutely nothing back to Mexico since he is only the third richest in the world and not the first..

Edited June 12, 2007 by Infidel

[Heracles 417]

It's not about blame but understanding the reasons.

I do feel sorry for the poor Mexicans though. They are caught in the middle of their government not giving a ###### about them and trying to handball their responsibility to someone else..

Edited June 12, 2007 by Infidel