Exactly what Tax Forms for I-864? RFE issue (merged)

[K + M 47]

13 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

So ask him if 88 hours is his normal work schedule.  If so, 88X26Xbase rate

 

 

8 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Is you dad paid every two weeks, or twice a month?

 

If twice a month, some pay periods will cover more than 10 working days.

 

9 minutes ago, NikLR said:

Does your dad make a salary and has overtime added to that if he works over 44 hours per week? 

For example  

My husband makes XX in salary. He is also paid a differential for night work, Saturday work and Sunday work.  He also makes overtime above 40 hours.  So even though he is salary, he can still earn overtime.  

Im paid 50k in salary. It doesnt matter if I work 60 hours or 30 hours in a week.  My gross salary remains the same. Im supposed to work 86 hours per 15 day period according to my pay check. Lol 

 

hmmm I'm going through the pay stubs and seems as if the column "Regular Hours" from each pay period seems to differ slightly by a couple hours, some pay periods will have 88 hours, another 92 hours, another 90 hours.  they are bi-weekly.

[Lemonslice 4,841]

Just now, Kerri and Myles said:

 

 

hmmm I'm going through the pay stubs and seems as if the column "Regular Hours" from each pay period seems to differ slightly by a couple hours, some pay periods will have 88 hours, another 92 hours, another 90 hours.  they are bi-weekly.

Can you tell me the dates of his last three or four paystubs?

[K + M 47]

3 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Can you tell me the dates of his last three or four paystubs?

At the top of his check it states Pay Rate: and it states how much he gets paid per month, couldn't I just take that amount and x 12?  Pretty certain that pay rate it is stating is gross before overtime so wouldn't that work?

Edited December 20, 2019 by Kerri and Myles

[Lemonslice 4,841]

1 minute ago, Kerri and Myles said:

At the top of his check it states Pay Rate: and it states how much he gets paid per month, couldn't I just take that amount and x 12?  Pretty certain that pay rate it is stating is gross before overtime so wouldn't that work?

Ok, so his basic salary is per month then (that amount doesn't change from one paystub to the next?).  Take the monthly salary * 12. 

[K + M 47]

Yeah for some reason the regular hours he works differ from pay period to pay period, some he will work 88 regular hours in a 2 week window, another he will do 90, another maybe 86, but the 2 week rate stays the same, as well as the monthly, and I just calculated to get the 6 month YTD from Jan to June and it matched up perfectly using those monthly pay rates.  So I could take his most current monthly pay rate of December and x 12 correct? Then boom that would be his current annual individual income?

 

Sorry meant to quote your previous post in it, I will just put your name instead

@Lemonslice

Edited December 20, 2019 by Kerri and Myles

[Lemonslice 4,841]

2 minutes ago, Kerri and Myles said:

Yeah for some reason the regular hours he works differ from pay period to pay period, some he will work 88 regular hours in a 2 week window, another he will do 90, another maybe 86, but the 2 week rate stays the same, as well as the monthly, and I just calculated to get the 6 month YTD from Jan to June and it matched up perfectly using those monthly pay rates.  So I could take his most current monthly pay rate of December and x 12 correct? Then boom that would be his current annual individual income?

 

Sorry meant to quote your previous post in it, I will just put your name instead

@Lemonslice

Yes. 

[K + M 47]

3 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Yes. 

Alright so what I will do when I get my moms soon is I will figure out her pay rate just as I did for my dads then just use the most current amount with the pay rate to calculate her current income aswell.  

 

Another thing I am still slightly confused on is if I am calculating my dads household income correctly - I will just pull info from previous thread forward:    

 

I would like to ask as well what constitutes as "financially responsible" , does claiming on taxes = financially responsible?  

 

I am just asking as I have seen instances where the child isn't claimed on the taxes, but still lives in the home so equates to the household size, I am asking just to make sure my dads household size is 6 and not 7, to figure out if my older brother who hasn't lived at home for a long time would or would not be counted on household size.  From what I have read/thinking is no, but I just want to make sure and know what equates to "financially responsible"  

 

I also want to clarify as I explained it a little poorly when I asked what constitutes to financially responsible what I meant to ask exactly what does "financially responsible" =  "claimed as dependent on taxes" = +1 to household size

 

And then knowing this info, I would be able to fully know if my dads household size is 6 and not 7

 

 

 

[NikLR 13,227]

4 minutes ago, Kerri and Myles said:

Alright so what I will do when I get my moms soon is I will figure out her pay rate just as I did for my dads then just use the most current amount with the pay rate to calculate her current income aswell.  

 

Another thing I am still slightly confused on is if I am calculating my dads household income correctly - I will just pull info from previous thread forward:    

 

I would like to ask as well what constitutes as "financially responsible" , does claiming on taxes = financially responsible?  

 

I am just asking as I have seen instances where the child isn't claimed on the taxes, but still lives in the home so equates to the household size, I am asking just to make sure my dads household size is 6 and not 7, to figure out if my older brother who hasn't lived at home for a long time would or would not be counted on household size.  From what I have read/thinking is no, but I just want to make sure and know what equates to "financially responsible"  

 

I also want to clarify as I explained it a little poorly when I asked what constitutes to financially responsible what I meant to ask exactly what does "financially responsible" =  "claimed as dependent on taxes" = +1 to household size

 

And then knowing this info, I would be able to fully know if my dads household size is 6 and not 7

 

 

 

Is your brother over 18 and not counted as a dependent on their taxes? 

[K + M 47]

1 minute ago, NikLR said:

Is your brother over 18 and not counted as a dependent on their taxes? 

I'm fairly certain they didn't claim him on 2018 taxes, and iirc they didn't for 2019 either, and yes he is over 18

Edited December 20, 2019 by Kerri and Myles

[NikLR 13,227]

17 minutes ago, Kerri and Myles said:

I'm fairly certain they didn't claim him on 2018 taxes, and iirc they didn't for 2019 either, and yes he is over 18

Then no they dont count him. 

[K + M 47]

12 minutes ago, NikLR said:

Then no they dont count him. 

Although I read that you can still have someone not being declared as a dependent but being still "financially responsible" for them and having them contribute to your household size.  I am pretty certain that in my scenario this would not be of the issue, but how can you not declare them as dependent on taxes, but still be financially responsible for them?  I'm asking this because I saw this scenario on another thread and I was just curious of the nature of how this would be figured out.

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2019 by Kerri and Myles

[NikLR 13,227]

1 minute ago, Kerri and Myles said:

Although I read that you can still have someone not being declared as a dependent but being still "financially responsible" for them and having them contribute to your household size.  I am pretty certain that in my scenario this would not be of the issue, but how can you not declare them as dependent on taxes, but still be financially responsible for them?  I'm asking this because I saw this scenario on another thread and I was just curious of the nature of how this would be figured out.

They're under 21 and live at home.

They're under 18, period. 

They're an LPR you already signed an I-864 for. 

Edited December 20, 2019 by NikLR

[K + M 47]

10 minutes ago, NikLR said:

They're under 21 and live at home.

They're under 18, period. 

They're an LPR you already signed an I-864 for. 

Alright, that makes perfect sense, thank you.

 

 so this is how I am going about calculating household size for my dad's I-864 which is the joint sponsor I-864, as follows:

 

My dad (joint Sponsor) = 1

My mom (spouse-household member)=1

me- child over 18, considered "other dependent", who they claimed on their taxes =1

my brother(this is not the older brother talked about above) - child over 18, considered "other dependent", who they claimed on their taxes = 1

my younger brother - child under 18 = 1

my wife (principal immigrant)=1

older brother = not counted as a household member as over 21, not living at home, and not claimed as dependent on most recent taxes so not financially responsible.

 

Total = 6 for household size

 

Also just so I know I am using the 100% correct data, for figuring out the household size, I go off who they claimed as dependents on the most recent years taxes so 2018 tax transcript correct?

 

 

Edited December 20, 2019 by Kerri and Myles

[pushbrk 12,884]

3 hours ago, Kerri and Myles said:

Although I read that you can still have someone not being declared as a dependent but being still "financially responsible" for them and having them contribute to your household size.  I am pretty certain that in my scenario this would not be of the issue, but how can you not declare them as dependent on taxes, but still be financially responsible for them?  I'm asking this because I saw this scenario on another thread and I was just curious of the nature of how this would be figured out.

 

 

 

If you read the I-864 instructions, you know they say to count any unmarried children under 21 no matter where they live.

[pushbrk 12,884]

3 hours ago, Kerri and Myles said:

Alright, that makes perfect sense, thank you.

 

 so this is how I am going about calculating household size for my dad's I-864 which is the joint sponsor I-864, as follows:

 

My dad (joint Sponsor) = 1

My mom (spouse-household member)=1

me- child over 18, considered "other dependent", who they claimed on their taxes =1

my brother(this is not the older brother talked about above) - child over 18, considered "other dependent", who they claimed on their taxes = 1

my younger brother - child under 18 = 1

my wife (principal immigrant)=1

older brother = not counted as a household member as over 21, not living at home, and not claimed as dependent on most recent taxes so not financially responsible.

 

Total = 6 for household size

 

Also just so I know I am using the 100% correct data, for figuring out the household size, I go off who they claimed as dependents on the most recent years taxes so 2018 tax transcript correct?

 

 

Since you are now married and not combining income with your parents, I would not count yourself as part of their household TODAY, no matter if you were claimed in 2018 or not and no matter whether you live in their house now.