Trump Needs Conspiracy Theories

[90DayFinancier 910]

40 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Hey 90DayFinancier, here's another beauty:

 

NBC:

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/doj-inspector-general-draft-report-says-fbi-didn-t-spy-n1093066

 

5 second Google search.. what a beautiful headline. Take that gaslighters!

 

Oh wait..

The FBI investigated multiple members of the Trump campaign who were suspected of having ties to Russia, including former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos, who later plead guilty to lying to the FBI about his contact with Russia. But the draft IG report, according to the Times, found that the campaign itself was not under surveillance and that the investigations into the Trump advisers were not illegal or politically motivated.

 

I wonder what that FBI investigation entailed?   🤔 Clearly they don't expect people to bother.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/21/us/politics/carter-page-fisa.html

 

But worry not, I love reading.

 

On Saturday evening, those materials — an October 2016 application to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to wiretap Mr. Page, along with several renewal applications — were released to The New York Times and other news organizations that had filed Freedom of Information Act lawsuits to obtain them. Mr. Trump had declassified their existence earlier this year.

 

 

 

Oh.. FOIA requests? Wonder what that's about.. lets click the link

 

https://charliesavage.com/?page_id=303#anchor22

 

That's some website linking to this dump of a FISA application.. by who?

 

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4614704-Savage-NYT-FOIA-Carter-Page-FISA-Documents-FOIA.html

 

The FBI. When? Middle of the 2016 campaign.

 

But why would they need a FISA application? Oh right, to spy. On who? Carter Page. But it wasn't just him being spied on. They spied on the Trump campaign a handful of times, at minimum. FISA apps against Manafort and Flynn also demonstrate this.

 

It's hard work reporting the truth, and the media can say they did indeed do it, but their readers demand a narrative, so, they produce both, while you only read the part you want to read, discard the rest, or evade it entirely like you did with me. 

 

It's a great experiment, I do concede. But gaslighters do need willful participants who want to be gaslighted. You play that part well too. 

What was Carter Page's relationship to the campaign?

 

Edit Wikipedia clarified:

 

"Trump announced Page as a foreign policy adviser in his campaign on March 21, 2016.^[30] On September 23, 2016, Yahoo News reported U.S. intelligence officials investigated alleged contacts between Page and Russian officials subject to U.S. sanctions, including Igor Sechin, the president of state-run Russian oil conglomerate Rosneft.^[4] Page promptly left the Trump campaign.^[1][31] Upon his departure, Trump campaign communications director Jason Miller said of Page, "He’s never been a part of our campaign. Period."^[32]"

Edited November 30, 2019 by 90DayFinancier

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[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, 90DayFinancier said:

What was Carter Page's relationship to the campaign?

 

Edit Wikipedia clarified:

 

"Trump announced Page as a foreign policy adviser in his campaign on March 21, 2016.^[30] On September 23, 2016, Yahoo News reported U.S. intelligence officials investigated alleged contacts between Page and Russian officials subject to U.S. sanctions, including Igor Sechin, the president of state-run Russian oil conglomerate Rosneft.^[4] Page promptly left the Trump campaign.^[1][31] Upon his departure, Trump campaign communications director Jason Miller said of Page, "He’s never been a part of our campaign. Period."^[32]"

He (Miller) could be right in the sense that he may not have been on their official staff, but he was an adviser to Trump on foreign policy during the campaign. This much is known and is up and down the media the entire year. He also wasn't the only person involved in the Trump 2016 campaign to be targeted by the bureaus (FBI et al), and FISA warrants around the election for spying.

Edited November 30, 2019 by Burnt Reynolds

[90DayFinancier 910]

7 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

He (Miller) could be right in the sense that he may not have been on their official staff, but he was an adviser to Trump on foreign policy during the campaign. This much is known and is up and down the media the entire year. He also wasn't the only person involved in the Trump 2016 campaign to be targeted by the bureaus (FBI et al), and FISA warrants around the election for spying.

Spying is not a legal term. Be specific about your allegations.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

8 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Spying is not a legal term. Be specific about your allegations.

 

3 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/justice-department-finds-fbi-didnt-spy-on-trump-2016-2019-11

In a huge blow to Trump, the DOJ watchdog found no evidence to support the claim that the FBI spied on his 2016 campaign

Sonam Sheth and Eliza Relman

 

Nov 27, 2019, 12:25 PM

 

President Donald Trump.  Reuters

• The Justice Department's inspector general found no evidence to support President Donald Trump's claim that the FBI inserted spies in his 2016 presidential campaign, The New York Times reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with a draft of the report.
• Trump has repeatedly and baselessly alleged that the FBI inserted covert operators in his campaign.
• He also alleged, without evidence, that former President Barack Obama had intelligence officials tap his phones, a claim the report is also expected to undercut.
• Sources told The Times and The Washington Post that while the report undermines Trump's most extreme claims, it also faults the FBI for making bureaucratic mistakes when applying for a warrant to surveil Carter Page, a former Trump campaign aide.
• Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories.

The Justice Department's inspector general found no evidence to support President Donald Trump's claim that the FBI spied on his 2016 presidential campaign while investigating whether the campaign was conspiring with the Russian government to interfere in the election, The New York Times reported on Wednesday, citing people familiar with a draft of the report.

 

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6 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

The president uses them for political and personal ends. The damage he’s wrought along the way won’t be easily repaired.

PETER NICHOLAS

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/11/trump-conspiracy-theories-ukraine/602728/

 

 

ALEX WONG / GETTY

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Out tumbled the groundless suspicions of Donald Trump. The hacked Democratic National Committee server was somehow in Ukraine. Barack Obama himself might have ordered spies to infiltrate Trump’s campaign.

 

For an hour last week, the folks at Fox & Friends struggled to get a word in and elicit some facts, any facts, that might have verified the conspiracy theories the 45th president was breathlessly disgorging. “Who are your sources?” one host asked Trump. “I can’t tell you that,” Trump replied. Are you sure the server is in Ukraine? another asked. “Well, that’s what the word is,” Trump said

 

 

A product of tabloid culture, Trump has long trafficked in conspiracy theories. But as chief executive, he’s used the machinery of government to give the ones especially useful to him the stamp of official validation. (That’s the main reason he now faces impeachment in the House.) These baseless theories are a way for Trump to explain away his problems and undercut opponents. Beyond that, though, they seem to serve distinct emotional needs, feeding a narcissistic ego that cold reality won’t satisfy. His efforts to persuade the public to go along with these self-protective myths have already corroded democratic institutions. The wreckage from that destructive legacy won’t be easily repaired after he leaves the stage

Oh please! The Democrats have done more damage with the fake Russian conspiracy than Trump could ever do....they make him out to be some illegitimate President across the globe and then complain that he is not respected across the globe....idiots!

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1 hour ago, MjC772 said:

Oh please! The Democrats have done more damage with the fake Russian conspiracy than Trump could ever do....they make him out to be some illegitimate President across the globe and then complain that he is not respected across the globe....idiots!

You are one intelligent individual.  Glad you are on the side of the correct!

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16 minutes ago, MjC772 said:

Oh please! The Democrats have done more damage with the fake Russian conspiracy than Trump could ever do....they make him out to be some illegitimate President across the globe and then complain that he is not respected across the globe....idiots!

thanks for breaking it down to small sentences so eiaquantly 

[MjC772 94]

1 minute ago, ALFKAD said:

You are one intelligent individual.  Glad you are on the side of the correct!

Well hey! I call it like I see it. I'll admit I had a serious, SERIOUS, reluctance to vote for Trump the first time but there was no way on God's green earth I was voting for Hillary. Trump is a lot of things - he's brash, tweets too much about stuff he should leave to others, says a lot of things he probably shouldn't, etc, etc.... but he is, more often than not, correct about general policy matters - policies that have either been ignored for far too long - policies that have been a drain on the United States, and at a significant cost to US industry and taxpayers.

 

Honestly, so far I like a significant majority of the policies he's implemented. Can you imagine for one minute how great the country could be if he wasn't facing these ridiculous challenges from the Democrats ....if they'd actually work together instead of just trying to regain power back? It would be like the commercial ...seeing your feet on the sandy beach, with the nice clear, blue water ahead, and next to you, a nice cold bucket of Coronas!

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1 hour ago, MjC772 said:

Well hey! I call it like I see it. I'll admit I had a serious, SERIOUS, reluctance to vote for Trump the first time but there was no way on God's green earth I was voting for Hillary. Trump is a lot of things - he's brash, tweets too much about stuff he should leave to others, says a lot of things he probably shouldn't, etc, etc.... but he is, more often than not, correct about general policy matters - policies that have either been ignored for far too long - policies that have been a drain on the United States, and at a significant cost to US industry and taxpayers.

 

Honestly, so far I like a significant majority of the policies he's implemented. Can you imagine for one minute how great the country could be if he wasn't facing these ridiculous challenges from the Democrats ....if they'd actually work together instead of just trying to regain power back? It would be like the commercial ...seeing your feet on the sandy beach, with the nice clear, blue water ahead, and next to you, a nice cold bucket of Coronas!

Ditto 

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2 hours ago, MjC772 said:

Well hey! I call it like I see it. I'll admit I had a serious, SERIOUS, reluctance to vote for Trump the first time but there was no way on God's green earth I was voting for Hillary. Trump is a lot of things - he's brash, tweets too much about stuff he should leave to others, says a lot of things he probably shouldn't, etc, etc.... but he is, more often than not, correct about general policy matters - policies that have either been ignored for far too long - policies that have been a drain on the United States, and at a significant cost to US industry and taxpayers.

 

Honestly, so far I like a significant majority of the policies he's implemented. Can you imagine for one minute how great the country could be if he wasn't facing these ridiculous challenges from the Democrats ....if they'd actually work together instead of just trying to regain power back? It would be like the commercial ...seeing your feet on the sandy beach, with the nice clear, blue water ahead, and next to you, a nice cold bucket of Coronas!

You, me, and a great majority of America.

 

Trump is an ###.  And an ### is so much more what we need than another politician.

[MjC772 94]

1 hour ago, ALFKAD said:

You, me, and a great majority of America.

 

Trump is an ###.  And an ### is so much more what we need than another politician.

Well, looking at the complete and utter lunacy of the 20 something Democrats running for the primary, please....send me my ballot today....I will gladly X the box for Donald Trump!

 

and...

 

Edited December 1, 2019 by MjC772
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