Looking for feedback on I-751 filing.

[Cryssiekins 976]

16 minutes ago, ribbondino said:

I agree with that but the messages are when we are working or I’m at school or shopping etc

I think that’s the point.  It’s normal for a married couple to communicate via text during workdays and such, but don’t overwhelm the petition with that.  If you want to include it (as we did), fine, but limit it. The bulk of your petition should be other types of evidence.  Focus on the financial commingling and showing that you and your spouse share a life together.  Extras like chats, photos, and affidavits can be added to supplement a filing, but should not be the majority of it.

 

Our filing was near 400 pages.  Maybe 20 pages of that was chats, pictures, and affidavits.  The rest was taxes, banking, credit, leases, car titles, etc. 

[bakphx1 789]

45 minutes ago, ribbondino said:

I agree with that but the messages are when we are working or I’m at school or shopping etc

Still not helpful.  Stick to lease, insurance, bank accounts, utilities.  They aren’t interested in chats for ROC.

[Chandil 0]

40 minutes ago, bakphx1 said:

Still not helpful.  Stick to lease, insurance, bank accounts, utilities.  They aren’t interested in chats for ROC.

Also another question. We have probably close to 1000 pages of financial evidence. We got everything from late 2016, joint bank, credit card, car, leases, insurance etc. All this needs to be one-sided? Not two-sided correct?

[mseck8688 16]

MY ADVICE IS DONT STRESS OUT yourself if your marriage is legit you dont have to worry send even more than 1000 evidence .

thats fine for them 

[debbiedoo 2,339]

2 hours ago, ribbondino said:

I agree with that but the messages are when we are working or I’m at school or shopping etc

They are NOT interested in the mundane boring while out running errand chats. This is not a K1 or CR1 or even AOS. This is a totally different petition and has totally different requirements.

[bakphx1 789]

2 hours ago, Chandil said:

Also another question. We have probably close to 1000 pages of financial evidence. We got everything from late 2016, joint bank, credit card, car, leases, insurance etc. All this needs to be one-sided? Not two-sided correct?

I would only send summary pages.  More is not better necessarily in terms of mundane details.  

[implife 318]

4 hours ago, Chandil said:

Also another question. We have probably close to 1000 pages of financial evidence. We got everything from late 2016, joint bank, credit card, car, leases, insurance etc. All this needs to be one-sided? Not two-sided correct?

I sent bank statements from every 4 months. Insurance, lease, etc, -- one per year, as they get renewed. Nowhere near 1000 pages, less than a 100.

[kenzo_gal 70]

To be on the safe side, I think it would be best to print the documents on one side only. You have to present strong evidences of comingling like joint bank statements, loans, mortgage, insurance (health), proof that you both live in the same address like utility bills and cards, pictures together (I had to write the date and brief details at the back portion of each pictures). Also, if you have a child make sure to send them a copy of his/her birth certificate.

 

Hope it helps.

[Nitas_man 3,100]

11 hours ago, ribbondino said:

What is that supposed to mean? 

It means couples who live together communicate in person.

Focus on hard evidence, throw the extra garbage out.  
Since you asked let me add:  1000 pages of “evidence” is insane.  USCIS doesn’t care a whit about your day to day prattle.

I’ve never even read about submitting 2-sided copies.  USCIS specifically asks for single-sided documentation.  They’ll receive your package, round file it, and reject it for not following instructions.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/forms-filing-tips

 

If you need some more feedback or advice let me know.

Edited December 1, 2019 by Nitas_man

[Nitas_man 3,100]

34 minutes ago, kenzo_gal said:

To be on the safe side, I think it would be best to print the documents on one side only. 

https://www.uscis.gov/forms-filing-tips

No safe side.  Single sided documentation is specifically required.
 

 

[ribbondino 0]

4 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

It means couples who live together communicate in person.

Focus on hard evidence, throw the extra garbage out.  
Since you asked let me add:  1000 pages of “evidence” is insane.  USCIS doesn’t care a whit about your day to day prattle.

I’ve never even read about submitting 2-sided copies.  USCIS specifically asks for single-sided documentation.  They’ll receive your package, round file it, and reject it for not following instructions.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/forms-filing-tips

 

If you need some more feedback or advice let me know.

The only place that it even says single sided is on that link. The form instructions does not and if you search you can find many others on this same site who turned double sided documents in. It’s just suggested, hence “tips” not “requirements”. We are going to use a copier to turn them into single sided sheets though; we don’t want them to miss something. 
 

Have you seen many posts or pictures of others’ evidence? There are people who have so much that they couldn’t even fit it into a 5 inch binder and had to just rubber band some and send it in a box. 
 

We are submitting three years of bank statements also, and the instructions for the form specifically state to include transaction history for all joint accounts. We don’t want to pick and choose which to include and which not to because that seems more suspicious than just including everything, especially since the instructions say to include as many documents demonstrating joint finances and responsibilities as possible. 
 

I am curious as to how often people are interviewed for the I-751. I know that an interview isn’t required unless they specially request one but I don’t know how often that is. Our AoS interview (minus waiting in lobby for our turn) was about 10 minutes, half of which was us just asking questions about turn around time and next steps that may be needed. 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

4 hours ago, ribbondino said:

The only place that it even says single sided is on that link. The form instructions does not and if you search you can find many others on this same site who turned double sided documents in. It’s just suggested, hence “tips” not “requirements”. We are going to use a copier to turn them into single sided sheets though; we don’t want them to miss something. 
 

Have you seen many posts or pictures of others’ evidence? There are people who have so much that they couldn’t even fit it into a 5 inch binder and had to just rubber band some and send it in a box. 
 

We are submitting three years of bank statements also, and the instructions for the form specifically state to include transaction history for all joint accounts. We don’t want to pick and choose which to include and which not to because that seems more suspicious than just including everything, especially since the instructions say to include as many documents demonstrating joint finances and responsibilities as possible. 
 

I am curious as to how often people are interviewed for the I-751. I know that an interview isn’t required unless they specially request one but I don’t know how often that is. Our AoS interview (minus waiting in lobby for our turn) was about 10 minutes, half of which was us just asking questions about turn around time and next steps that may be needed. 

Not my “tips” (LOL).  Those are USCIS “tips”.  Snow on USCIS.  I just linked ‘em.  Your job to read USCIS “tips” before not after you prepare a package of garbage to send them anyway.

 

Me?  I’ve been around here since ‘06.  Seen a lot on here.  Never seen a ROC package (ever) that uses chat data to demonstrate co-mingled marriage and never seen a 1000 page filed package ever.

 

Birth certificates of children, lease/mortgage info, tax returns, financial records (USCIS also provides “tips” there for the dim-witted), and affidavits are the only (specific) items listed.  The “other” documents are - if you have an auto loan attach insurance / registration with both names as well as records of the loan.  If you have a joint cell phone account send an early statement with both of your names from when you opened the account and send a recent one with both names showing it’s still opened.  Attach evidence/photos you travelled together.  Attach evidence you attended family functions (weddings, holidays) together (travel records and a couple photos).  Attach evidence you attend other functions together.  Example: Attach your season football tickets and a picture of the two of you tailgating or at a game.  

You don’t need “3 full years of bank statements”.   Who told you that?  Where does it say that? You need a statement from early in the marriage, a few from in the middle, and a recent one to demonstrate co-mingling from early in the marriage to present.  Bonus:  Debit cards with separate names copied on one sheet of paper on top of the statements is better than a hundred pages of chat about going to the bank.  
 

Each set of evidence should be clearly arranged and explained as per the “tips” (sorry that’s just too funny) 

Example:  One blank sheet between sections of evidence that says in big clear font “Joint account opened on xxx date and still current”.  

Again:  USCIS does not care about your selfies and day to day prattle as much as your facebook and instagram followers probably do.  Ditch that and send hard evidence of co-mingling like they asked you to.

 

[ribbondino 0]

2 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

Not my “tips” (LOL).  Those are USCIS “tips”.  Snow on USCIS.  I just linked ‘em.  Your job to read USCIS “tips” before not after you prepare a package of garbage to send them anyway.

 

Me?  I’ve been around here since ‘06.  Seen a lot on here.  Never seen a ROC package (ever) that uses chat data to demonstrate co-mingled marriage and never seen a 1000 page filed package ever.

 

Birth certificates of children, lease/mortgage info, tax returns, financial records (USCIS also provides “tips” there for the dim-witted), and affidavits are the only (specific) items listed.  The “other” documents are - if you have an auto loan attach insurance / registration with both names as well as records of the loan.  If you have a joint cell phone account send an early statement with both of your names from when you opened the account and send a recent one with both names showing it’s still opened.  Attach evidence/photos you travelled together.  Attach evidence you attended family functions (weddings, holidays) together (travel records and a couple photos).  Attach evidence you attend other functions together.  Example: Attach your season football tickets and a picture of the two of you tailgating or at a game.  

You don’t need “3 full years of bank statements”.   Who told you that?  Where does it say that? You need a statement from early in the marriage, a few from in the middle, and a recent one to demonstrate co-mingling from early in the marriage to present.  Bonus:  Debit cards with separate names copied on one sheet of paper on top of the statements is better than a hundred pages of chat about going to the bank.  
 

Each set of evidence should be clearly arranged and explained as per the “tips” (sorry that’s just too funny) 

Example:  One blank sheet between sections of evidence that says in big clear font “Joint account opened on xxx date and still current”.  

Again:  USCIS does not care about your selfies and day to day prattle as much as your facebook and instagram followers probably do.  Ditch that and send hard evidence of co-mingling like they asked you to.

 

I wasn’t saying they were your tips; the page says USCIS tips. No reason to assume. Also, we are not sending message history; I agree that it would mostly be a waste of paper. 

Scroll in the thread for a picture. It’s also a pinned post so not sure how you missed it. That pile is easily over 1000 pages.

 

 

Multiple people sending all of their bank statements:

N400 but same idea:

I know there are tons of people who don’t submit every statement or bill that are approved just fine. We are organizing bills by year and type so if they want to see specific transactions they can but if not then it’s all there anyway and easy to see/sort. I’d rather be safe than sorry and am definitely in the “everything but the kitchen sink” group. They won’t deny you because you have too much evidence. Ours is easy to sort through and if they don’t care about a million statements fine, but at least they are there. 

[Nitas_man 3,100]

18 minutes ago, ribbondino said:

I wasn’t saying they were your tips; the page says USCIS tips. No reason to assume. Also, we are not sending message history; I agree that it would mostly be a waste of paper. 

Scroll in the thread for a picture. It’s also a pinned post so not sure how you missed it. That pile is easily over 1000 pages.

 

 

Multiple people sending all of their bank statements:

N400 but same idea:

I know there are tons of people who don’t submit every statement or bill that are approved just fine. We are organizing bills by year and type so if they want to see specific transactions they can but if not then it’s all there anyway and easy to see/sort. I’d rather be safe than sorry and am definitely in the “everything but the kitchen sink” group. They won’t deny you because you have too much evidence. Ours is easy to sort through and if they don’t care about a million statements fine, but at least they are there. 

LOL.  We’ve never received an RFE.  In fact we’ve never had a bump in any aspect of the immigration process.  So - I just advise to prepare packages the way we prepared them.  No harm in too much evidence.  As long as it’s high quality evidence.  Chats?  Fluff
 

Good luck!

Edited December 1, 2019 by Nitas_man

[Comic 66]

I wouldn’t want to read a 1000 pages of anything. Might even take them longer to work on your case