Administrative Processing/Administrative Reivew

[mendeleev 68]

Thank you very much, Keisha.

[Turboguy 6]

Since mine is stuck at the NVC level it is more the area of concern for me. I had thought about doing a post in the NVC topic something like "Administrative Review Timelines" and adding data from any members who would keep me posted of their timelines. Something like this.

Administrative review at NVC

Turboguy, Ray & Irina, Country Russia. Entered A/R 1/24/07 Exited A/R: Not yet. Notes Second K-1 both

Volcano (not real) Joe and Tanya, Country Ukraine, In AR 7/23/06 Exited 3/22/07, Notes None

Tornado, (not real, Sam & Ann, Country Egypt, In AR 11.13/06, Exited not yet, Notes 4th K-1

Administrative Processing at Embassy.

---------------------------------- as above.

If I kept it in a Datebase and everytime someone added info posted an update it would not be a lot of work and could be helpful. It seems to me a lot of us are very curious about timelines. Any comments.

[Nagishkaw 510]

Turboguy,

That sounds good to me. Any others have a take on this suggestion?

[LaL 418]

I think it could be a nice addition, but part of me thinks we are getting away from the original intent of the timelines. So much emphasis is placed on them, and I do not see that as necessarily a good thing.

Regardless, my suggestion for implementation would be for it to mirror the RFE category. (as in, a delay)

[mendeleev 68]

lal_brandow,

What was the original intent of the timelines? I thought they were to help people understand how long different portions of the process take.

That's what I am asking for. Without the timelines, each step of the process would look indeterminate. With this tool, we have a rough'n'ready guide for when our experience is close to or far from the norm.

One big problem with tracking AR/AP, especially at a Service Center or NVC, is that petitioner may not be aware that this has become current status. After the interview, it gets clearer. So the data will be rather messy. But then again, timeline data is inherently messy, because lots of people don't fill them in. This new dataset will be messier, but it may be better than nothing for those who follow us.

As I understand it (I never got one) RFE's have very specified time windows where response is required. Then processing resumes and, anecdotally, rapid action on the petition follows. For AR, no response is possible and the government claims that results are unpredictable. But if we can average across lots of people, we can get idea of what sort of delay is "normal" and what is "unusual".

Turboguy's offer is a good and generous one, but addresses the issue in an ad-hoc fashion. And, I sincerely hope that Turboguy will get bored with this issue soon and move on (because that would mean that he and his sweetie have exited AR)!

An addition to the timelines, and an ability to search on it, would take away most of the need for human management of these data, except for purposes of inquiry and analysis.

Edited June 12, 2007 by novotul

[MaxxumUSA 0]

My A/R lasted 4 business days.

It's outta there as of yesterday - on the way to moscow.

I was worried about nothing.

I am still concerned about the A/R delays that others face after doing research this weekend. I wish you all the best and you will be in my prayers.

[stevenw60 0]

My A/R lasted 4 business days.

It's outta there as of yesterday - on the way to moscow.

I was worried about nothing.

I am still concerned about the A/R delays that others face after doing research this weekend. I wish you all the best and you will be in my prayers.

Nice David! that was fast!

[Nagishkaw 510]

I am very happy for you David and I'm wishing you all the best !

[JODO 2]

My A/R lasted 4 business days.

It's outta there as of yesterday - on the way to moscow.

I was worried about nothing.

I am still concerned about the A/R delays that others face after doing research this weekend. I wish you all the best and you will be in my prayers.

Glad you got out of A/R quickly. Good luck to the rest

[The_dip_sticks 0]

I applied for the K3 visa last year in May. As of now it has been a year and we sill have not recived an approval for the I130 or I129F. Every time we do an inquery we get a bull ###### reply saying that we are stuck in AP or futher review or security checks. bla blah blah im on the brink of going nuts. How canit be that we are in this black whole in the USCIS level????

[MaxxumUSA 0]

I applied for the K3 visa last year in May. As of now it has been a year and we sill have not recived an approval for the I130 or I129F. Every time we do an inquery we get a bull ###### reply saying that we are stuck in AP or futher review or security checks. bla blah blah im on the brink of going nuts. How canit be that we are in this black whole in the USCIS level????

I am sorry to hear about your delay. I am also wondering what would cause such a delay.

Did you have a lot of evidence of meeting in person? Do either one of you have criminal history? Did you use an attorney to make sure all of your papers are in order for the petition?

I see you posted wondering about immigration reform... I'm not sure any new laws would help with your petition.

I found out supposedly that security checks are done on the petitioner at the USCIS and then on the beneficiary at the NVC. Not sure if this is 100% accurate but based on this information it seems that for some reason you are delayed and it might be your background.

I know of others with criminal history that got approved - including myself. What do you think might be cause of additional investigation?

I wish you the best.

[The_dip_sticks 0]

I have no clue what is going on. I have no criminal background and neither does my husband. I have gotten speeding tickets but thats about it. Currently Im planning of gettig a packet together that shows that my husband and I have an existing relationship or what is that they call it "evidence". Im planning on sending in a copy of our birth certificats, pictures, bills, medical insurance, our univeristy degrees, and a few affidavits of support from friends and family. I will send it to my senator so that he can forward this to USCIS with hopes that this additional information gets attached to the correct pettition. Maybe this additional evidence will help to clarify things on their end. Does any one have any additional suggestions of what I should or should not send?

[LaL 418]

I have no clue what is going on. I have no criminal background and neither does my husband. I have gotten speeding tickets but thats about it. Currently Im planning of gettig a packet together that shows that my husband and I have an existing relationship or what is that they call it "evidence". Im planning on sending in a copy of our birth certificats, pictures, bills, medical insurance, our univeristy degrees, and a few affidavits of support from friends and family. I will send it to my senator so that he can forward this to USCIS with hopes that this additional information gets attached to the correct pettition. Maybe this additional evidence will help to clarify things on their end. Does any one have any additional suggestions of what I should or should not send?

I am not sure exactly how this will help other than getting them to physically pick up your file (depending on where you send the info and where your actual file sits). Administrative Review has nothing to do with the legitimacy of a relationship. It is just an unfortunate situation many of find ourselves in for a horrific amount of time.

I don't mean to discourage you from sending in additional bonafide evidence, however I just wanted to clarify that the sticking point is not your relationship evidence.

[MaryandMian 1]

I have no clue what is going on. I have no criminal background and neither does my husband. I have gotten speeding tickets but thats about it. Currently Im planning of gettig a packet together that shows that my husband and I have an existing relationship or what is that they call it "evidence". Im planning on sending in a copy of our birth certificats, pictures, bills, medical insurance, our univeristy degrees, and a few affidavits of support from friends and family. I will send it to my senator so that he can forward this to USCIS with hopes that this additional information gets attached to the correct pettition. Maybe this additional evidence will help to clarify things on their end. Does any one have any additional suggestions of what I should or should not send?

I am not sure exactly how this will help other than getting them to physically pick up your file (depending on where you send the info and where your actual file sits). Administrative Review has nothing to do with the legitimacy of a relationship. It is just an unfortunate situation many of find ourselves in for a horrific amount of time.

I don't mean to discourage you from sending in additional bonafide evidence, however I just wanted to clarify that the sticking point is not your relationship evidence.

Laura is correct that they are not asking for information so this could delay your case since it means they would have to add information that they do not need at this point. I am sorry to hear that your case is still stuck.

[jms 0]

I am at the embassy stage so my interest is in AP timeline AFTER the interview

where you will know you are in AP/AR.

At the NVC level it seems too difficult to track.

I read your concern over how long AR takes after the interview, and wondered if you got any info since I have not been on here for awhile. The letter given says up to 6 months, but is there any info as to how long they are taking at the embassy level? Thanks for any info you have obtained!!