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I am a U.S Citizen. I got relocation offer to work for 2 years in Scottland. I will still be paying tax to U.S government although I work in Scotland for this company. I have filed I-130 for my spouse and it's been 4 months. If I relocate now, i.e. before my spouse's application is completed and before my spouse arrives here, will it affect the application and visa process?

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There’s no basis to immigrate To the US based on a family member that will be living abroad. The petition can proceed as-is and you can hold things up at NVC for a while...likely until you are ready to return to the US.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted
16 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

Yes, it will affect the case.  For the I-864, you are required to be domiciled in the US.

By living abroad, your spouse's case will end in a denial. 

Thank you for the information. I checked the instruction to file I-864 and it is true that I am required to be domiciled in the US, but looks like as I will be paying tax to U.S. govt and it's for temporary period of time (only 2 years), I am considered as domiciled in U.S. It is stated like this:-

Item Number 5. Country of Domicile. Indicate the country where you maintain your principal residence and where you
plan to reside for the foreseeable future. If your mailing address and/or place of residence is not in the United States, but
your country of domicile is the United States, you must attach a typed or printed explanation and documentary evidence
indicating how you meet the domicile requirement. If you are not currently living in the United States, you may meet the
domicile requirement if you can submit evidence to establish that any of the following conditions apply:
1. You are employed by a certain organization.
Some individuals employed overseas are automatically considered as domiciled in the United States because of the
nature of their employment. The qualifying types of employment include employment by:
A. The U.S. Government;
B. An American institution of research recognized by the Secretary of Homeland Security (you may find the list of
qualifying institutions at 8 CFR 316.20);
C. A U.S. firm or corporation engaged in whole or in part in the development of foreign trade and commerce with the
United States, or a subsidiary of such a firm or corporation;
D. A public international organization in which the United States participates by treaty or statute;
E. A religious denomination having a bona fide organization in the United States, if the employment abroad involves
the person’s performance of priestly or ministerial functions on behalf of the denomination; or
F. A religious denomination or interdenominational missionary organization having a bona fide organization in the
United States, if the person is engaged solely as a missionary.
2. You are living abroad temporarily.
If you are not currently living in the United States, you must provide proof that your trip abroad is temporary and that
you have maintained your domicile in the United States. Examples of proof include:
A. Your voting record in the United States;
B. Records of paying U.S. state or local taxes;
Form I-864 Instructions 03/06/18 Page 6 of 17
C. Having property in the United States;
D. Maintaining bank or investment accounts in the United States;
E. Having a permanent mailing address in the United States; or
F. Other proof such as evidence that you are a student studying abroad or that a foreign government has authorized a
temporary stay.
3. You intend in good faith to reestablish your domicile in the United States no later than the date of the intending
immigrant’s admission or adjustment of status.

My only fear is would it make the whole application process longer or more hectic.

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, geowrian said:

There’s no basis to immigrate To the US based on a family member that will be living abroad. The petition can proceed as-is and you can hold things up at NVC for a while...likely until you are ready to return to the US.

Thank you for replying.

I checked the instruction on I-864, and they said if I can prove that I am domiciled here in U.S. although I work abroad, then the application is eligible to proceed forward. As I will be paying tax to U.S. govt and it is only for 2 years, I am guessing I am eligible to be considered as domiciled in U.S. category. 

It might affect the timeline of the whole process though.

Edited by guestOfTheYear
Filed: Other Country: Saudi Arabia
Timeline
Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, guestOfTheYear said:

I am a U.S Citizen. I got relocation offer to work for 2 years in Scottland. I will still be paying tax to U.S government although I work in Scotland for this company. I have filed I-130 for my spouse and it's been 4 months. If I relocate now, i.e. before my spouse's application is completed and before my spouse arrives here, will it affect the application and visa process?

The requirement is for the petitioner to return to and reside in the US before or with the beneficiary.

See #3 on your previous post

Everyone working overseas pays taxes

Edited by Nitas_man
Filed: Other Country: Saudi Arabia
Timeline
Posted
13 minutes ago, guestOfTheYear said:

Thank you for replying.

I checked the instruction on I-864, and they said if I can prove that I am domiciled here in U.S. although I work abroad, then the application is eligible to proceed forward. As I will be paying tax to U.S. govt and it is only for 2 years, I am guessing I am eligible to be considered as domiciled in U.S. category. 

It might affect the timeline of the whole process though.

It depends.  Will you be working for the same company when you return?  If so it complicates the support affidavit as overseas income that will not continue when you return to the US is counted as (zero) for immigration purposes.

You sure this is the right time to take an expat gig?

Posted (edited)
29 minutes ago, guestOfTheYear said:

Thank you for replying.

I checked the instruction on I-864, and they said if I can prove that I am domiciled here in U.S. although I work abroad, then the application is eligible to proceed forward. As I will be paying tax to U.S. govt and it is only for 2 years, I am guessing I am eligible to be considered as domiciled in U.S. category. 

It might affect the timeline of the whole process though.

You cannot be domiciled in the US and living abroad (Edit: Well, there are very limited circumstances where you can...but that does not appear to apply here). Domicile, as far as used within the INA, is where you lay your head more often than not without regard to intent. See the FAM: https://fam.state.gov/fam/09fam/09fam030208.html#M302_8_2_C_5

 

For I-864 purposes, you can either be domiciled in the US or show sufficient intent to establish US domicile prior to the beneficiary entering the US. You cannot be actually living abroad with plans to remain living abroad. You can proceed once you are ready to return to the US.

What you're expecting/planning doesn't make sense - the purpose of the CR-1/IR-1 visa is for family reunification in the US. That has no role until you are ready to live in the US.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Denmark
Timeline
Posted
47 minutes ago, guestOfTheYear said:

B. Records of paying U.S. state or local taxes;

Notice it says state & local taxes, not federal taxes. Everyone must file federal taxes whether in the US or not, federal taxes do not count for proof of domicile, only the aforementioned state & local taxes. As Nitas_man and geowrian already pointed out, the I864 also states you MUST return to the US before or at the same time as your spouse, you cannot hang back abroad while your spouse immigrates to the US without you. You either can take the relocation and drag your feet at NVC for the next 2 years until you're ready to come back to the US, see if your company can hold off until after the process is complete to relocate you (if you would still even want to take it after your spouse is already here), or not take the relocation at all

Our CR1 Journey:

 

USCIS Stage:

  • Feb 14 2019: NOA1 (NSC)
  • July 31 2019: I129f NOA1
  • Sep 19 2019: I129f NOA2 (Denied - 50 days from NOA1)
  • Sep 19 2019: I130 NOA2 (Approved - 217 days from NOA1)

 

NVC Stage:

  • Sep 27 2019: Sent to Department of State
  • Oct 31 2019: Case number received (34 days since sent)
  • Nov 1 2019: IV & AOS fees received & paid
  • Nov 14 2019: IV & AOS submitted
  • Dec 18 2019: All docs accepted, but one additional doc requested (5 weeks from submission)
  • Dec 18 2019: Requested doc submitted
  • Feb 19 2020: Documentarily Qualified (9 weeks from 2nd submission, 14 weeks from first submission)

 

Interview Stage:

  • Mar 11 2020: Interview letter received
  • Apr 1 2020: Interview date
  • Mar 17 2020: Interview cancelled due to COVID-19
  • August 3 2020: Rescheduled letter received, new appointment August 25 2020
  • August 25 2020: Visa approved at interview! (558 days from NOA1)
  • September 10 2020: Embassy received passport in mail
  • September 15 2020: Passport with visa in hand

 

October 11 2020: Arrived in US!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
Posted

Hopefully the job comes with tax filing advice, your US tax bill should be nominal at worst.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
Timeline
Posted

Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

 
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