Republicans Are Waging War on Reality to Defend Dear Leader Trump

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6 hours ago, laylalex said:

I'm fully aware of what would happen if Trump was removed. I'm more concerned about the principle of the thing. If these are impeachable acts, not to bring articles of impeachment, and not to convict, just because you don't like the VP, isn't a good reason.

 

Yikes that was a lot of commas.

Did you ever consider applying that logic to the Democrats?

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6 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Exactly, if Trump provides the witnesses that were close the fiasco, and they spoke up, they may be able to explain what really was on the President's mind (there's a concept). 

I suspect though if we have the testimony of Mulvaney, the VP, Bolton and Pompeo would only make it worse for the President.

Already did, Mueller found nothing criminal in a two year fishing expedition, so now we get another.  Well, this time Trump is not providing the fish without court order.

 

Btw, still waiting for the answer to the actual crime?

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9 hours ago, laylalex said:

But how do we know if he is falsely accused if no investigation is carried out? It's just as valid to say now that it's a true accusation as a false one. We just don't know for certain yet.

Reference what @Boiler opined.  Using your logic, this should be the norm going forward regardless of who is in the WH.  I also opined about this when Mueller was appointed without any identified crime to actually investigate.  We may see another nationwide office to vote on every four years, Chief Investigative Prosecutor, with the task to initiate a fishing investigation on the President-elect or incumbent to start within weeks of the inauguration. 

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5 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Already did, Mueller found nothing criminal in a two year fishing expedition, so now we get another.  Well, this time Trump is not providing the fish without court order.

 

Btw, still waiting for the answer to the actual crime?

Your statement has no logic. These events occurred after the Mueller investigation. And If you have not been paying attention to what is aleged in the Ukraine case you have not been paying attention.

 

 

[Boiler 45,486]

Begs the question why Biden has not been investigated?

[90DayFinancier 910]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Begs the question why Biden has not been investigated?

Because the accusations have their source in a Russian intelligence disinformation campaign that have been disproved.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

13 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Begs the question why Biden has not been investigated?

Because he is on the side of the aisle of those-who-shall-not-be-investigated.

 

Never mind those ACTUAL WORDS Biden bragged about getting an investigator fired.  Never mind the millions that left the Ukraine into the Biden family bank accounts.  Nothing to see here.  Please move on.

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Begs the question why Biden has not been investigated?

He is a member of the Bipartisan deep state 

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4 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Your statement has no logic. These events occurred after the Mueller investigation. And If you have not been paying attention to what is aleged in the Ukraine case you have not been paying attention.

 

 

It makes perfect sense since this is just a continuation of the 22 month Mueller investigation, nothing has changed, and it is not a Trump’s responsibility to prove his innocence.  Additionally, he does not have to make it easy for Schiff and Pelosi, if they want Bolton et. al. to testify, send them a subpoena, and let a judge decide.  I am losing track of what is being alleged by lying Schiff, first it was quid pro quo, then abuse of power, the extortion, then bribery, obstruction of justice.  Then we saw a line up of deep state self important people give their opinions of whatever happened.  Still haven’t heard from the partisan hack that started all this, but that may change when this goes to the Senate.

 

At least with Clinton and Nixon there were actual crimes.

Edited November 26, 2019 by Bill & Katya

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2 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Because the accusations have their source in a Russian intelligence disinformation campaign that have been disproved.

The accusation of Hunter Biden being a board member of Barisma, and mysteriously causing a corruption investigation to be stopped?  How did the Russians orchestrate that?

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2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

The accusation of Hunter Biden being a board member of Barisma, and mysteriously causing a corruption investigation to be stopped?  How did the Russians orchestrate that?

Isn't it a remarkable coincidence that with all the countries with corruption issues in the world, the Ukraine, the one country trying hard to move out of Moscow's sphere of influence was Targeted to have their funds "delayed"? And of all the topics for the President to promote, it was a disproven allegation of corruption involving his political opponent, and the one leading him the polls?

 

I wonder what the odds are?

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

 

 

Isn't it a remarkable coincidence that with all the countries with corruption issues in the world, the Ukraine, the one country trying hard to move out of Moscow's sphere of influence was Targeted to have their funds "delayed"? And of all the topics for the President to promote, it was a disproven allegation of corruption involving his political opponent, and the one leading him the polls?

 

I wonder what the odds are?

 

 

 

What are the odds of Biden Jnr who has no obvious skills getting a job with a Ukrainian Company that paid so much?

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Just now, Boiler said:

What are the odds of Biden Jnr who has no obvious skills getting a job with a Ukrainian Company that paid so much?

I do agree it's kinda of shady, Biden promised to withhold add unless the prosecutor was fired

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7 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I do agree it's kinda of shady, Biden promised to withhold add unless the prosecutor was fired

No, not true, you are the victim of a disinformation campaign. The prosecutor  in question was not involved in corruption cases and the timelines do not align. 

 

Edited November 26, 2019 by 90DayFinancier

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5 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I do agree it's kinda of shady, Biden promised to withhold add unless the prosecutor was fired

I am pretty sure that timeline has been debunked. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/viktor-shokin-ukraine-prosecutor-trump-biden-hunter-joe-investigation-impeachment-a9147001.html

 

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The wild conspiracy theory on which Trump based his assertion – that Joe Biden had Shokin removed to stop him investigating wrongdoing in his son’s gas company – has already been widely debunked. 

Put simply, the chronology doesn’t work – the investigation into Burisma, where Hunter worked, was dormant by the time Shokin was pushed out.