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Hello, 

 

We've tried browsing the forum for the answer but we haven't found it ..

 

We just found out that our friend won't be able to be a joint sponsor, but now we are thinking if we even need one? 

 

USC (petitioner) spent the last 6 years serving the US in the USN. He came to Australia from Jan 2019 and flies back to the States in Jan 2020 to (a) re-establish domicile and (b) get a job! He will files taxes for the year he was in Australia but it will be 0 as he did not work due to his Australian visa conditions so no US income and no foreign income. 

 

If the petitioner has a job that is well above the poverty line at the NVC stage, would we still need a joint sponsor? He can provide 3+ years of tax transcripts with only one year (being the when he files taxes in 2020) will be 0. He will (or should) be able to supply letter from employment plus pay stubs for when he gets a job when he moves back. 

 

Will that be enough or give the most recent year was a 0 on his tax, will NVC require a joint sponsor?

 

What about savings in a US bank account? Could that help?

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2 April 2018: Married in Santa Ana, California 💒

6 June 2019: Birth of our daughter 👶👨‍👩‍👧

14 October 2019: Sent I-130 package via AusPost 📮 

18 October 2019: NOA1 received - sent to Texas Service Centre :D

24 October 2019: USCIS processed filing fee 🤑 waiting game 🕰️

22 January 2020: Andy moved back to the USA😞 🇺🇸 - re-establish domicile & to get a job 👨‍⚕️

23 February 2020: Petition transferred from Texas Service Centre to Nebraska Service Centre 😞

15 May 2020: I-130 petition approved! 😭😍 Date changes leading up to the approval were: 1 May, 12 May, 13 May. 

16 May 2020: Received NVC email, paid all fees. Waiting for fees to process so we can upload and submit all documents

19 May 2020: Immigrant visa Fees PROCESSED; affidavit of support fee PROCESSED 

28 May 2020: Submitted VISA application, civil documents & affidavit of support documents. Patiently awaiting DQ. 

2 June 2020: Email received from NVC stating that we have been Documentary Qualified and that they will liaise with US Consulate in Sydney for Interview 🐨

27 June 2020: Expedite request submitted 🤞

7 July 2020: Expedite request APPROVED! 😃😭

15 July 2020: Email received advising of interview date and time. 
20 July 2020: Medical i: n Melbourne CBD 🏥     
28 July 2020: US visa interview at US consulate Sydney - refused 221(g) issued. Request for joint sponsor 😞

31 July 2020: uploaded joint sponsor to NVC, emailed consulate 

5 August 2020: emailed received advising they have received the joint sponsor 

7 August 2020: case i0n “administrative processing” 🤞

10 August 2020: visa ISSUED 😭 

12 August 2020: passport and visa in hand!

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The NVC is does not make the final determination on whether or not a joint sponsor will be required, a CO at the Consulate does.  The CO will consider the totality of the circumstances in determining whether or not a joint sponsor will be necessary for your case.

 

46 minutes ago, zochu said:

What about savings in a US bank account? Could that help?

 

He does have that option of listing those funds in the assets section on the I-864; however, it's still up to the CO if they want to accept it or not.

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Ok, thank you.

 

So we could proceed to the interview stage with no joint sponsor to be told that we may need one by the consulate?

 

would you suggest then having a Joint sponsor just as a precaution then?

Our Visa Journey:

 

2 April 2018: Married in Santa Ana, California 💒

6 June 2019: Birth of our daughter 👶👨‍👩‍👧

14 October 2019: Sent I-130 package via AusPost 📮 

18 October 2019: NOA1 received - sent to Texas Service Centre :D

24 October 2019: USCIS processed filing fee 🤑 waiting game 🕰️

22 January 2020: Andy moved back to the USA😞 🇺🇸 - re-establish domicile & to get a job 👨‍⚕️

23 February 2020: Petition transferred from Texas Service Centre to Nebraska Service Centre 😞

15 May 2020: I-130 petition approved! 😭😍 Date changes leading up to the approval were: 1 May, 12 May, 13 May. 

16 May 2020: Received NVC email, paid all fees. Waiting for fees to process so we can upload and submit all documents

19 May 2020: Immigrant visa Fees PROCESSED; affidavit of support fee PROCESSED 

28 May 2020: Submitted VISA application, civil documents & affidavit of support documents. Patiently awaiting DQ. 

2 June 2020: Email received from NVC stating that we have been Documentary Qualified and that they will liaise with US Consulate in Sydney for Interview 🐨

27 June 2020: Expedite request submitted 🤞

7 July 2020: Expedite request APPROVED! 😃😭

15 July 2020: Email received advising of interview date and time. 
20 July 2020: Medical i: n Melbourne CBD 🏥     
28 July 2020: US visa interview at US consulate Sydney - refused 221(g) issued. Request for joint sponsor 😞

31 July 2020: uploaded joint sponsor to NVC, emailed consulate 

5 August 2020: emailed received advising they have received the joint sponsor 

7 August 2020: case i0n “administrative processing” 🤞

10 August 2020: visa ISSUED 😭 

12 August 2020: passport and visa in hand!

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3 minutes ago, zochu said:

So we could proceed to the interview stage with no joint sponsor to be told that we may need one by the consulate?

 

That's a possibility.

 

5 minutes ago, zochu said:

would you suggest then having a Joint sponsor just as a precaution then?

 

I would suggest having someone on standby in case it becomes necessary; with that being said, don't delay proceeding with the steps when the time comes.

 

PS:  I recognize the background in your photo.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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18 minutes ago, Ryan H said:

 

That's a possibility.

 

 

I would suggest having someone on standby in case it becomes necessary; with that being said, don't delay proceeding with the steps when the time comes.

 

PS:  I recognize the background in your photo.


 

thanks for responding again.

 

we might find another joint sponsor.

 

yeh, it’s at pike place in Washington! Had our ceremony at Gasworks and photos all over Seattle even though we legally wed in CA.  Husband was born in Seattle!  

Our Visa Journey:

 

2 April 2018: Married in Santa Ana, California 💒

6 June 2019: Birth of our daughter 👶👨‍👩‍👧

14 October 2019: Sent I-130 package via AusPost 📮 

18 October 2019: NOA1 received - sent to Texas Service Centre :D

24 October 2019: USCIS processed filing fee 🤑 waiting game 🕰️

22 January 2020: Andy moved back to the USA😞 🇺🇸 - re-establish domicile & to get a job 👨‍⚕️

23 February 2020: Petition transferred from Texas Service Centre to Nebraska Service Centre 😞

15 May 2020: I-130 petition approved! 😭😍 Date changes leading up to the approval were: 1 May, 12 May, 13 May. 

16 May 2020: Received NVC email, paid all fees. Waiting for fees to process so we can upload and submit all documents

19 May 2020: Immigrant visa Fees PROCESSED; affidavit of support fee PROCESSED 

28 May 2020: Submitted VISA application, civil documents & affidavit of support documents. Patiently awaiting DQ. 

2 June 2020: Email received from NVC stating that we have been Documentary Qualified and that they will liaise with US Consulate in Sydney for Interview 🐨

27 June 2020: Expedite request submitted 🤞

7 July 2020: Expedite request APPROVED! 😃😭

15 July 2020: Email received advising of interview date and time. 
20 July 2020: Medical i: n Melbourne CBD 🏥     
28 July 2020: US visa interview at US consulate Sydney - refused 221(g) issued. Request for joint sponsor 😞

31 July 2020: uploaded joint sponsor to NVC, emailed consulate 

5 August 2020: emailed received advising they have received the joint sponsor 

7 August 2020: case i0n “administrative processing” 🤞

10 August 2020: visa ISSUED 😭 

12 August 2020: passport and visa in hand!

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it seems very easy for people to find joint sponsors from what I see on this site. Unfortunately, I did ask a few and all said no, but I just got a job last minute so I am not sure how that will turn out as my I-864 is already submitted. I don't mean to hijack this thread, but in case you or someone else doesn't find a joint sponsor, so what happens then? I told my husband overseas that if they ask for a joint sponsor, he should tell them that we tried to find one, but were rejected, so that the consulate will know how to proceed. Do they automatically deny you, and send your case back to USCIS and USCIS then denies the whole year-long visa then and then you need to wait a year and start another year of visa form scratch? I honestly feel like I will have a heart attack if this happens to me. 

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58 minutes ago, fem_femme said:

it seems very easy for people to find joint sponsors from what I see on this site. Unfortunately, I did ask a few and all said no, but I just got a job last minute so I am not sure how that will turn out as my I-864 is already submitted. I don't mean to hijack this thread, but in case you or someone else doesn't find a joint sponsor, so what happens then? I told my husband overseas that if they ask for a joint sponsor, he should tell them that we tried to find one, but were rejected, so that the consulate will know how to proceed. Do they automatically deny you, and send your case back to USCIS and USCIS then denies the whole year-long visa then and then you need to wait a year and start another year of visa form scratch? I honestly feel like I will have a heart attack if this happens to me. 

From what I've read, they may give a 221g form requesting you get a joint sponsor. If you don't or can't then I think it does work its way back to the USCIS. 

 

I think if you can convince a CO that you the beneficiary will not become a public charge then that's what they are looking for. As mentioned above, they look at the totality of the circumstances. For example, how likely could the beneficiary get a job? Do they have work skills that can be transferred over from their home country to the US? Are they educated? 

 

I wish you well - please update us how you go with your situation! 

 

 

Our Visa Journey:

 

2 April 2018: Married in Santa Ana, California 💒

6 June 2019: Birth of our daughter 👶👨‍👩‍👧

14 October 2019: Sent I-130 package via AusPost 📮 

18 October 2019: NOA1 received - sent to Texas Service Centre :D

24 October 2019: USCIS processed filing fee 🤑 waiting game 🕰️

22 January 2020: Andy moved back to the USA😞 🇺🇸 - re-establish domicile & to get a job 👨‍⚕️

23 February 2020: Petition transferred from Texas Service Centre to Nebraska Service Centre 😞

15 May 2020: I-130 petition approved! 😭😍 Date changes leading up to the approval were: 1 May, 12 May, 13 May. 

16 May 2020: Received NVC email, paid all fees. Waiting for fees to process so we can upload and submit all documents

19 May 2020: Immigrant visa Fees PROCESSED; affidavit of support fee PROCESSED 

28 May 2020: Submitted VISA application, civil documents & affidavit of support documents. Patiently awaiting DQ. 

2 June 2020: Email received from NVC stating that we have been Documentary Qualified and that they will liaise with US Consulate in Sydney for Interview 🐨

27 June 2020: Expedite request submitted 🤞

7 July 2020: Expedite request APPROVED! 😃😭

15 July 2020: Email received advising of interview date and time. 
20 July 2020: Medical i: n Melbourne CBD 🏥     
28 July 2020: US visa interview at US consulate Sydney - refused 221(g) issued. Request for joint sponsor 😞

31 July 2020: uploaded joint sponsor to NVC, emailed consulate 

5 August 2020: emailed received advising they have received the joint sponsor 

7 August 2020: case i0n “administrative processing” 🤞

10 August 2020: visa ISSUED 😭 

12 August 2020: passport and visa in hand!

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8 hours ago, zochu said:

From what I've read, they may give a 221g form requesting you get a joint sponsor. If you don't or can't then I think it does work its way back to the USCIS. 

 

I think if you can convince a CO that you the beneficiary will not become a public charge then that's what they are looking for. As mentioned above, they look at the totality of the circumstances. For example, how likely could the beneficiary get a job? Do they have work skills that can be transferred over from their home country to the US? Are they educated? 

 

I wish you well - please update us how you go with your situation! 

 

 

thanks so much will do..sorry for hijacking your thread lol im frustrated and needed a rant and you were here LOLOL my parents became sponsors for two people so im frustrated that we helped others but no one wants to help us for which i cant find a joint sponsor now but it seems like reading this forum, most people don't have a problem finding joint sponsors and at this moment in time I can say that i am jealous lol i wish i befriended those joint sponsors myself ))) i wish you good luck in this journey too!

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