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8 minutes ago, laylalex said:

She is demonstrably a child. She is under 18. Attack her message, don't attack what she looks like unless you want to look like you don't have anything to attack her on substantively.

 

It's Friday night -- let's have a nice glass of box wine together. :P I'm headed home, want me to pick anything up on the way?

Oil?

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1 hour ago, laylalex said:

She is demonstrably a child. She is under 18. Attack her message, don't attack what she looks like unless you want to look like you don't have anything to attack her on substantively.

 

It's Friday night -- let's have a nice glass of box wine together. :P I'm headed home, want me to pick anything up on the way?

It's not her fault, I don't blame her.  I blame FIRST her parents, for using a handicapped child in this way, and SECOND the media, for using her as a political pawn.  It is shameful.  She should be in school with her classmates, getting an education, not being used to further a political tax issue.

Also, you may notice I have never commented on her looks.  But I think what SB says about people having doppelgängers is accurate.  Have seen it several times in my life.

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6 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Castrol GTX Magnatek 0-20 full synthetic, please.

I think you quoted the wrong person, not my call.

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On 11/22/2019 at 9:33 PM, ALFKAD said:

I blame FIRST her parents, for using a handicapped child in this way, and SECOND the media, for using her as a political pawn.  It is shameful.

This.  It's disability abuse.

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As the parent of a neurodivergent teenager I have been paying particular attention to the continued attacks and the weaponization of Greta's diagnoses (or in more correctly pseudo-diagnoses) on here.

There is a misconception that individuals on the autistic spectrum cannot function in situations where neurotypical individuals may succeed or thrive. Using words like "handicapped" and "disabled" show a deep misunderstanding of the condition. While you may justify this as a bit of "fun" or freedom of speech it is offensive.

I regularly receive personal messages from members on here seeking advice - either they themselves are on the autistic spectrum or their child is. Greta may well never read what is on here but there is a very high possibility that they may. It creates an environment of intolerance and bullying, even if you justify it as "deserved" because it is directed at a high-profile individual. 

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1 hour ago, fip & jim said:

As the parent of a neurodivergent teenager I have been paying particular attention to the continued attacks and the weaponization of Greta's diagnoses (or in more correctly pseudo-diagnoses) on here.

There is a misconception that individuals on the autistic spectrum cannot function in situations where neurotypical individuals may succeed or thrive. Using words like "handicapped" and "disabled" show a deep misunderstanding of the condition. While you may justify this as a bit of "fun" or freedom of speech it is offensive.

I regularly receive personal messages from members on here seeking advice - either they themselves are on the autistic spectrum or their child is. Greta may well never read what is on here but there is a very high possibility that they may. It creates an environment of intolerance and bullying, even if you justify it as "deserved" because it is directed at a high-profile individual. 

There is a very big difference between criticizing a public figure, and Ms. Thunberg is in fact a public figure and making fun of a condition that afflicts others.  The question is was this her idea, or is she being used.  If it is her idea, then she cannot escape criticism because of her age, or her condition.  If not her idea, then it seems like a case of exploitation.

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3 hours ago, fip & jim said:

As the parent of a neurodivergent teenager I have been paying particular attention to the continued attacks and the weaponization of Greta's diagnoses (or in more correctly pseudo-diagnoses) on here.

There is a misconception that individuals on the autistic spectrum cannot function in situations where neurotypical individuals may succeed or thrive. Using words like "handicapped" and "disabled" show a deep misunderstanding of the condition. While you may justify this as a bit of "fun" or freedom of speech it is offensive.

I regularly receive personal messages from members on here seeking advice - either they themselves are on the autistic spectrum or their child is. Greta may well never read what is on here but there is a very high possibility that they may. It creates an environment of intolerance and bullying, even if you justify it as "deserved" because it is directed at a high-profile individual. 

Intresting. This may sound stupid. Do you watch the good doctor? 

Trump just signed a huge Autism bill.

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3 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

There is a very big difference between criticizing a public figure, and Ms. Thunberg is in fact a public figure and making fun of a condition that afflicts others.  The question is was this her idea, or is she being used.  If it is her idea, then she cannot escape criticism because of her age, or her condition.  If not her idea, then it seems like a case of exploitation.

Yet you have decided she is disabled and therefore is being exploited, because she couldn't possibly be on the autism spectrum and be able to form an opinion of her own?

There is continuing armchair analysis on here of someone's condition. People that view neurodivergence as a disability or handicap show their own ignorance and prejudice about a condition that can be a vast spectrum of challenges and strengths. Many of the great innovators have shown "autistic" traits - people like Einstein and Tesla. 

I guess it's easy to take a pop at someone, anonymously, without thinking through the consequences of the message you are sending out. There are members on here that are autistic, or have a family member on the spectrum. Well noted that you failed to address my comments about how it creates an environment of intolerance and bullying. Cue the "snowflake" name calling....

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Non of us are qualified to diagnose her seemingly numerous medical issues and how they inter relate. Best leave that to the professionals.

 

I assume most people can recognoise obvious child abuse when we see it. What help can she get when stuck on a yacht in the middle of the ocean?

 

 

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39 minutes ago, fip & jim said:

Yet you have decided she is disabled and therefore is being exploited, because she couldn't possibly be on the autism spectrum and be able to form an opinion of her own?

There is continuing armchair analysis on here of someone's condition. People that view neurodivergence as a disability or handicap show their own ignorance and prejudice about a condition that can be a vast spectrum of challenges and strengths. Many of the great innovators have shown "autistic" traits - people like Einstein and Tesla. 

I guess it's easy to take a pop at someone, anonymously, without thinking through the consequences of the message you are sending out. There are members on here that are autistic, or have a family member on the spectrum. Well noted that you failed to address my comments about how it creates an environment of intolerance and bullying. Cue the "snowflake" name calling....

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The Armchair medical diagnostics match the Armchair legal opinions that are in abundance here. Both are worth about what we paid for them.

 

Thanks for sharing.

 
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