Utah woman fights charge after kids see her topless at home

[yuna628 9,676]

4 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

It's not denigrating their suitability, it's respecting their right not to have kids ("I'm totally on their side with this"), and encouraging it if their behavior stays this irrational or gets worse. Considering hearing a crying baby in a bathroom to be tantamount to child abuse is irrational. Threatening not to have kids until people politically give you your way is extremely irrational. If these things are rational, I'm open to debate as to why they are. Or attempt to demonstrate rationality with the reflexive outrage retort. 

In my time on this earth I have seen many a neglectful, shameful, and abusive parent in public situations. I think it is rather an instinctive maternal thing, for a woman to hear a baby rage-crying and wonder if that child is okay and is not reflective to anything you are personally doing to said child or reflective of any woman's ability to be rational or irrational or their own ability to have children or suitability therein.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

On 11/21/2019 at 6:06 PM, ALFKAD said:

I did get a visit from social services once because my daughter had told her school counselor that I had spanked her with a belt.  A lady showed up at my house and asked to speak to my wife and I alone.  Asked if I had spanked my daughter with a belt.  I said yes.  When she asked why, I told her my daughter had shoplifted (with an older, troubled teen who was trying to date my son at the time).  She tried to tell me it was inappropriate to spank a child, especially a teen girl.

 

She then asked to talk to my daughter,  which we did together.  Other than encourage her to answer the lady's questions (she is kinda shy), I kept my mouth shut.  Then she asked to inspect my daughter's bare bottom.  I told her it was up to daughter and my wife (step mom).

 

Thankfully, any bruising that may have been was gone, and all was well.  At the end, the worker asked if I planned to spank my daughter in the future.  I said I hoped not, that I think my daughter had learned her lesson the first time,  which was the very purpose of such punishment.   She also tried to badger my spouse into admitting that she had "allowed the abuse".  LOL, noce try.  My wife said that she thought the punishment fit the crime, and that had she done such as a kid, that her dad would have done the same thing to her, except he would have used the buckle end of the belt.

 

After she said she was gonna file her report, but that no abuse was noted, I asked her if she had kids.  She said no, but she had a masters in... something about kids.  I told her that perhaps she should consider obtaining some actual experience in raising her own kids before she tried to tell actual parents how to raise theirs.  She was nice enough, but... naive.

I have been visited by LA County social services before for using the belt on my kids. This is about 6 months after I got custody of my kids and my son was going to therapy for issues with adjustment. He told the therapist who was some young intern SJW that I spanked him and she got was "alarmed by the use if corporal punishment". So she told her supervisor who alerted DSS. Which this was about a month after LA DSS messed up and allowed a boy to stay with his mom which he ultimately died as a result. So needless to say DSS was hard core on us. 

First a police officer came to my house because he was told that "I was hitting the 6 month old baby" which my wife was horrified at that accusation. Then a social worker came by the house and talked to all of us and the kids separately twice. The accusation of me abusing my kids were ultimately found to be unfounded and the social worker informed us that "corporal punishment is allowed as long as you are not beating the child". So we did not renew my son going back to that therapist after that. 

 

 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

4 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I have been visited by LA County social services before for using the belt on my kids. This is about 6 months after I got custody of my kids and my son was going to therapy for issues with adjustment. He told the therapist who was some young intern SJW that I spanked him and she got was "alarmed by the use if corporal punishment". So she told her supervisor who alerted DSS. Which this was about a month after LA DSS messed up and allowed a boy to stay with his mom which he ultimately died as a result. So needless to say DSS was hard core on us. 

First a police officer came to my house because he was told that "I was hitting the 6 month old baby" which my wife was horrified at that accusation. Then a social worker came by the house and talked to all of us and the kids separately twice. The accusation of me abusing my kids were ultimately found to be unfounded and the social worker informed us that "corporal punishment is allowed as long as you are not beating the child". So we did not renew my son going back to that therapist after that. 

 

 

Unfortunate. This is why as a parent it's imperative we educate our kids and instill basic values in them, lest the cultural doormats reinforce these non-values. Never bend the knee.

 

That being said, as someone who was hit with a belt many, many times.. studded belts, and "switches", along with hand, all the belts and such did was leave permanent nerve damage to my back, and in the end, it never changed how much of a handful I was as a kid. My kids will playfully spank my butt but it stings like crazy. While I spank with the hand, objects have an increasing likelihood of permanent damage, so I've never used any object and never will.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

58 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Unfortunate. This is why as a parent it's imperative we educate our kids and instill basic values in them, lest the cultural doormats reinforce these non-values. Never bend the knee.

 

That being said, as someone who was hit with a belt many, many times.. studded belts, and "switches", along with hand, all the belts and such did was leave permanent nerve damage to my back, and in the end, it never changed how much of a handful I was as a kid. My kids will playfully spank my butt but it stings like crazy. While I spank with the hand, objects have an increasing likelihood of permanent damage, so I've never used any object and never will.

Well tbh when I first got custody of my two older kids from my x-wife they were the epitome of wild children that needed discipline. Their mother did not do anything with them except take them from house to house with her her while she and her friends did drugs.

 

Now they are just fine overall and my oldest is set with all A's and the vast majority of the time the punishment is a time out or a very stern talking too but they know the belt is always an option if it gets to that level

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

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Edited November 23, 2019 by Penguin_ie