Trump ordered Ukraine ‘quid pro quo’ through Giuliani, key witness Sondland testifies

[90DayFinancier 910]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

With the exception of Manafort that was convicted of practices well before the election in part with help from the Ukraine trying to gain political favor with who everyone expected to win in 2016 (how many times did we hear that we should not turn to another country to investigate a USC the past several weeks), the rest were process crimes that happened during the investigation itself.  Regardless, they were found guilty and are serving their time with the exception of Flynn for some odd reason.  But with all that coming from Mueller, I don’t remember any indictments of President Trump.  I know one thing that whole thing did for me was to put a big sense of distrust of the government and their investigators.  
 

But in reality, that does not answer my question of what crime was Trump accused of committing?

 

Btw, I am still waiting for your take on Blumenauer’s actions in Oregon?

Bill Barr does not think any president could be guilty of a crime, or even investigated. What is the point of asking if he is guilty? He obviously cannot and we don't have the means to investigate it. I am not clear if this was his view of Obama.

 

Drawing a blank on Blumenauer my friend. Refresh my memory on the topic.

[Dashinka 24,514]

52 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Bill Barr does not think any president could be guilty of a crime, or even investigated. What is the point of asking if he is guilty? He obviously cannot and we don't have the means to investigate it. I am not clear if this was his view of Obama.

 

Drawing a blank on Blumenauer my friend. Refresh my memory on the topic.

Driving the attacks on Sondland’s family businesses.  As to Barr, the DOJ doesn’t indict sitting Presidents which is why Bill Clinton was never criminally indicted for lying under oath.  That does not mean there could not be a sitting indictment for when a President leaves office.

[90DayFinancier 910]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Driving the attacks on Sondland’s family businesses.  As to Barr, the DOJ doesn’t indict sitting Presidents which is why Bill Clinton was never criminally indicted for lying under oath.  That does not mean there could not be a sitting indictment for when a President leaves office.

Oh well, Sondland paid his million to play state department for the most controversial administration in US history then plops into the middle of an international political mess well out of his league.

 

I don't agree with punishing the hard working hotel workers and the Yelp ratings. 

 

As far as his personal consequences : He is an adult and made his choices. 

 

You may think it unfair, but donations have consequences.

 

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

But in reality, that does not answer my question of what crime was Trump accused of committing?

 

 

If you're waiting for a direct answer from @90DayFinancier you are wasting your bandwidth.  Direct answers are not his MO.

[Dashinka 24,514]

18 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Oh well, Sondland paid his million to play state department for the most controversial administration in US history then plops into the middle of an international political mess well out of his league.

 

I don't agree with punishing the hard working hotel workers and the Yelp ratings. 

 

As far as his personal consequences : He is an adult and made his choices. 

 

You may think it unfair, but donations have consequences.

 

 

So Trump tweeting during Yovanovitch’s testimony is intimidation (even though she would have never known about it except for good old lying Schiff), but attacking another witnesses family business is just ok?  I love the logic of the Left.

[90DayFinancier 910]

48 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So Trump tweeting during Yovanovitch’s testimony is intimidation (even though she would have never known about it except for good old lying Schiff), but attacking another witnesses family business is just ok?  I love the logic of the Left.

I am not sure who "attacked" him. Do you mean the local boycotting?

 

I didn't bring up Trump tweeting, which is really one of his more glaiket behavior traits, but in raising that scenario I have to agree it was inappropriate in particular

 

 

[90DayFinancier 910]

2 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Bill Barr does not think any president could be guilty of a crime, or even investigated. What is the point of asking if he is guilty? He obviously cannot and we don't have the means to investigate it. I am not clear if this was his view of Obama.

 

Drawing a blank on Blumenauer my friend. Refresh my memory on the topic.

I must have done something wrong if NB liked my post. 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Just now, 90DayFinancier said:

I must have done something wrong if NB liked my post. 

I'm thinking some lefty white knight hacked his account today.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

3 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I am not sure who "attacked" him. Do you mean the local boycotting?

 

I didn't bring up Trump tweeting, which is really one of his more glaiket behavior traits, but in raising that scenario I have to agree it was inappropriate in particular

 

 

A lot of us who support Trump, thinks he acts like a classless buffoon.  Twitter specifically . 

So was Patton.  Making a point 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

3 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I must have done something wrong if NB liked my post. 

I agree with you sometimes.  I am the only true middle of the rode unbiased poster here.

 

Both sides at times view me as on the otherside. Sometimes its hard to see the middle,  when you plowing a ditch .

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

4 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

I'm thinking some lefty white knight hacked his account today.

Not at all. I am as straight down the middle as they come. I am a senior Veteran here. I have seen more sneaky mess and spent more time in VJ jail than anyone here . I came with in spitting distance of a perma ban, during the last woke cabba war.

Just trying to help a brutha out. You technically committed a mid level tos violation. I know you dont see it but you did . I am impartial.  Just pointing it out.

[90DayFinancier 910]

[Dashinka 24,514]

2 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I don’t think Trump ever said that.

[Dashinka 24,514]

6 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I am not sure who "attacked" him. Do you mean the local boycotting?

 

I didn't bring up Trump tweeting, which is really one of his more glaiket behavior traits, but in raising that scenario I have to agree it was inappropriate in particular

 

 

My question is about the logic of boycotting Sondland’s wife’s businesses by the tolerant Left, and the impact politically it could be on his testimony.  Adam Schiff took great pains to instruct us on witness intimidation which I am sure is being drafted into one of the Articles, but for some reason was silent about the actions of his Leftist colleague from the House.  I also have a long standing aversion to Twitter, and have criticized Trump many times over his impulsive Tweets, but if one is defined as intimidation, the other surely is as well, so I am sure Nancy Pelosi will be looking into it.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

I don’t think Trump ever said that.

He did say he didn't know Sonderland very well.  Which, if you're a leftist, would obviously lead to the above meme in an attempt to make the public think Trump lied.  Say it enough times and it becomes your personal truth, I reckon.