Trump ordered Ukraine ‘quid pro quo’ through Giuliani, key witness Sondland testifies

[90DayFinancier 910]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

You do understand that the Congress does not have oversight over the President right?  The House here is setting a precedent that will surely be used the next time any Democrat enters the White House.  I said it back when Mueller was appointed based on a presumptive (I.e. made up) narrative.  The next time we elect a President, we will have an automatic appointment of a special prosecutor.  It is really sad to see how the a Democrats have abused their Constitutional powers.

I am rapidly becoming an amateur congressional scholar and can field  softballs like this.

Congress has implied oversight that has been upheld by the Supreme Court many times.  

How can they appropriate, enact laws, declare war, impeach and remove officials if they cannot get accurate information on what the executive branch was doing? 

 

 

 

[Dashinka 24,747]

7 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

I believe the Senate "trial" will be over within minutes. Less than a day at most.

Personally, I think McConnell could decide to drag it out as it would throw a wrench in the campaigns of Warren, Sanders and the other Senators currently running for President.

[Dashinka 24,747]

2 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Ummmmm, Congress DOES have oversight of the executive branch. Where are you reading this? 

 

No, we are hiring movers. And yes, I think I'll be okay about the ring. It's not a big deal, and it probably will happen at some point -- he says it will, just give him some time. And if his sister changes her mind, I might have the other ring anyway. 

Congress has oversight over the Executive Branch Departments, but they do not have oversight of the Presidency.  There is a difference.

2 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I am rapidly becoming an amateur congressional scholar and can field  softballs like this.

Congress has implied oversight that has been upheld by the Supreme Court many times.  

How can they appropriate, enact laws, declare war, impeach and remove officials if they cannot get accurate information on what the executive branch was doing? 

 

 

 

The Presidency is not the same thing as the Executive Branch Departments.

[90DayFinancier 910]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Congress has oversight over the Executive Branch Departments, but they do not have oversight of the Presidency.  There is a difference.

The Presidency is not the same thing as the Executive Branch Departments.

You are going to have to prove that point.

[laylalex 7,300]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Congress has oversight over the Executive Branch Departments, but they do not have oversight of the Presidency.  There is a difference.

Where exactly did you read that? Please answer my question. 

[90DayFinancier 910]

2 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Where exactly did you read that? Please answer my question. 

Hint: He didn't read it in Article 2.

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2 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

You are going to have to prove that point.

Foreign relations. Does the President have to get approval of Congress to conduct foreign policy in their own style?  Executive Orders, can Congress, other than through legislation, stop an EO?

[Dashinka 24,747]

1 minute ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Hint: He didn't read it in Article 2.

Congressional oversight powers of the Executive Branch departments are not enumerated in the Constitution, they are implied.  The only power Congress has over the President is to impeach and try the President, VP, judge, etc.,  and the Founding Fathers made that a power that should be used sparingly.  Of course they can make up any reason, and focus group various terms, but one thing we are learning from the Schiff circus is that what the House is doing now is purely partisan TDS, and exactly what the Founding Fathers did not intend, but what the heck, let’s Impeach the usurper.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Travel back in time a little over 110 years ago, and recall that democrats were hanging radical Republicans right along with blacks, just because they didn't agree with their beliefs.  It is akin to what we are watching today, except without the shroud of privacy and mystery.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   You're starting to sound like all the people on here who predicted McCain would trounce Obama back in 2008. I hope it end's better for you. 

And just who would those people be ?

[Boris Farage 353]

14 minutes ago, laylalex said:

No, we are hiring movers. And yes, I think I'll be okay about the ring. It's not a big deal, and it probably will happen at some point -- he says it will, just give him some time. And if his sister changes her mind, I might have the other ring anyway. 

Do you think it likely his sister will change her mind? Seems a lot to ask.

 

12 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Personally, I think McConnell could decide to drag it out as it would throw a wrench in the campaigns of Warren, Sanders and the other Senators currently running for President.

Good point, actually. The more they pretend to take it seriously, the more the American people will see what a farce it is.

[TBoneTX 45,990]

1 hour ago, 90DayFinancier said:

Because you have President's and not Kings, the language is doubly confusing.

Regardless, sounds like a whole lotta tortfeasin' goin' on.

[laylalex 7,300]

10 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Do you think it likely his sister will change her mind? Seems a lot to ask.

Maybe. She isn't particularly happy with her boyfriend at the moment -- apparently she found out he was testing the waters with another woman to see if she was a better fit. 

 

Sorry, I know this is off topic. 😕 

[yuna628 9,700]

43 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Foreign relations. Does the President have to get approval of Congress to conduct foreign policy in their own style?  Executive Orders, can Congress, other than through legislation, stop an EO?

Congress has the power to not only stop, but completely invalidate executive orders. If a President attempts to veto the invalidation, Congress may over-ride the veto with the two-thirds majority. The President is not above the law, and the Congress has oversight. He is not a god or king.

[90DayFinancier 910]

34 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Congressional oversight powers of the Executive Branch departments are not enumerated in the Constitution, they are implied.  The only power Congress has over the President is to impeach and try the President, VP, judge, etc.,  and the Founding Fathers made that a power that should be used sparingly.  Of course they can make up any reason, and focus group various terms, but one thing we are learning from the Schiff circus is that what the House is doing now is purely partisan TDS, and exactly what the Founding Fathers did not intend, but what the heck, let’s Impeach the usurper.

You went way off the logical and factual rails in line two. So much Trumpism Derangement Syndrome occuring here.