(Secondary Inspection) Travelling after I751

[Dashinka 24,941]

1 hour ago, daijia said:

Does anyone has link of Carrier Guide from Canadian Border Agency, the one that says having expired GC and NOA are eligible to board?

 

I saw it yesterday but I forgot to save, and I can't it on Google.

 

Thanks!

Are you looking for a Canadian Carrier Guide, or the US CBP Carrier Guide?  I have never seen a Canadian Carrier Guide, but I am quite familiar with the US CBP carrier guide.

[daijia 1]

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3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Are you looking for a Canadian Carrier Guide, or the US CBP Carrier Guide?  I have never seen a Canadian Carrier Guide, but I am quite familiar with the US CBP carrier guide.

I am actually looking for the Canadian Transporter Guide. I saw yesterday that their border agency apparently also has one for airlines

 

But would you mind attaching a link for the US CBP Carrier Guide since you have mentionned? Thanks a lot!

[HRQX 4,145]

1 minute ago, daijia said:

I am actually looking for the Canadian Transporter Guide.

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trans/guide-eng.html "I-797 Notice of Action accompanied by the passenger's expired U.S. PR card"

2 minutes ago, daijia said:

link for the US CBP Carrier Guide

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2017-Nov/carrier-information-guide-english.pdf

[daijia 1]

Just now, HRQX said:

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trans/guide-eng.html "I-797 Notice of Action accompanied by the passenger's expired U.S. PR card"

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2017-Nov/carrier-information-guide-english.pdf

Thank you very much! They are saved in book marks now!

[Dashinka 24,941]

1 minute ago, daijia said:

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I am actually looking for the Canadian Transporter Guide. I saw yesterday that their border agency apparently also has one for airlines

 

But would you mind attaching a link for the US CBP Carrier Guide since you have mentionned? Thanks a lot!

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/2019 Carrier Information Guide - ENGLISH.pdf

 

I also found this.

 

U.S. Permanent Residents

All permanent residents of the United States are required to carry an eTA. Therefore their foreign passport must be linked to a valid eTA. They must also travel with proof of their permanent resident status in order to substantiate their visa exemption.

The following documents are proof of U.S. permanent residence:

• U.S. Permanent Resident Card (I-551)
• A temporary I-551 machine-readable immigrant visa (MRIV)
• A temporary I-551 ADIT (Alien Documentation, Identification and Telecommunications System) stamp affixed to a passport or to the Arrival/Departure Record (Form I-94)
• I-797 Notice of Action accompanied by the passenger's expired U.S. PR card
• I-327 Re-entry Permit (can be used to apply for an eTA)
• U.S. Government Issued Transportation Letter/Lincoln Boarding Foil

 

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trans/guide-eng.html

 

 

2 minutes ago, HRQX said:

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trans/guide-eng.html "I-797 Notice of Action accompanied by the passenger's expired U.S. PR card"

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2017-Nov/carrier-information-guide-english.pdf

You win! 

 

[daijia 1]

2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/2019 Carrier Information Guide - ENGLISH.pdf

 

I also found this.

 

U.S. Permanent Residents

All permanent residents of the United States are required to carry an eTA. Therefore their foreign passport must be linked to a valid eTA. They must also travel with proof of their permanent resident status in order to substantiate their visa exemption.

The following documents are proof of U.S. permanent residence:

• U.S. Permanent Resident Card (I-551)
• A temporary I-551 machine-readable immigrant visa (MRIV)
• A temporary I-551 ADIT (Alien Documentation, Identification and Telecommunications System) stamp affixed to a passport or to the Arrival/Departure Record (Form I-94)
• I-797 Notice of Action accompanied by the passenger's expired U.S. PR card
• I-327 Re-entry Permit (can be used to apply for an eTA)
• U.S. Government Issued Transportation Letter/Lincoln Boarding Foil

 

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trans/guide-eng.html

 

 

You win! 

 

Thank you too!. I plan to print these out and bring them with me when I travel, in case that I encounter a not "well-informed" airline agent at the airport!

[Dashinka 24,941]

1 minute ago, daijia said:

Thank you too!. I plan to print these out and bring them with me when I travel, in case that I encounter a not "well-informed" airline agent at the airport!

That is a good idea.  There was another thread discussing flying Aeroflot where the member was told by the airline that the AP card was not a valid document for re-entering the US.  It was a PITA for this members family, but eventually they got on with the help of the carrier guide.

 

Good Luck!

[daijia 1]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

That is a good idea.  There was another thread discussing flying Aeroflot where the member was told by the airline that the AP card was not a valid document for re-entering the US.  It was a PITA for this members family, but eventually they got on with the help of the carrier guide.

 

Good Luck!

Yes that is what I am trying to avoid. I just hope those agents won't be stubborn.

 

I heard a story that a guy are refused to board on AC plane from Lima back to US with a transfer in Canada. He even showed the documents and the guide for transporters from Canada and US, and the agent still refused to let him board. He has to take another flight by LATAM which he was able to obtain the boarding pass successfully. 

[Lucky2Lucky 2,526]

Any non citizen Is subject to secondary inspection.

[HRQX 4,145]

37 minutes ago, Luckycuds said:

Any non citizen Is subject to secondary inspection.

Yup. Even USC without ID: https://youtu.be/1FB1FTXwGLw?t=2237

[Bzlibem 111]

I’ve been to the secondary inspection every time I returned to the US (traveled with a valid green card). At ORD it usually takes them 30 minutes - 1 hour to verify my info. I applied for the redress number around a year ago but I haven’t been out of country ever since so haven’t gotten a chance to see if it worked or not. 
 

don’t worry though. They usually have you sit down and wait, that’s it.  They return to you with your gc and passport. 

Edited November 18, 2019 by Bzlibem

[daijia 1]

1 minute ago, Bzlibem said:

I’ve been to the secondary inspection every time I returned to the US (traveled with a valid green card). At ORD it usually takes them 30 minutes - 1 hour to verify my info. I applied for the redress number around a year ago but I haven’t been out of country ever since so haven’t gotten a chance to see if it worked or not. 

Oh then it sounds really random. But it is good to hear from first-hand experience about what they do during a secondary inspection. Then there has nothing to worry about since they only spend time checking my info, I was just worried that would do an extensive search on your history and everything.

 

Because my friend's friend was deported from US after being called for a secondary inspection where the officer looked through his phones and laptops. They even found messages with his friends in US that was already removed from his phone. He was eventually deported, along with all these considerable accusations, because of his "potential intention to settle in the US with B2 visa"., while the friend was just in US for vacation

 

Since I understand the fact that non-citizens are all subject to secondary inspection, that is what makes me asking this question.  

[Bzlibem 111]

2 minutes ago, daijia said:

Oh then it sounds really random. But it is good to hear from first-hand experience about what they do during a secondary inspection. Then there has nothing to worry about since they only spend time checking my info, I was just worried that would do an extensive search on your history and everything.

 

Because my friend's friend was deported from US after being called for a secondary inspection where the officer looked through his phones and laptops. They even found messages with his friends in US that was already removed from his phone. He was eventually deported, along with all these considerable accusations, because of his "potential intention to settle in the US with B2 visa"., while the friend was just in US for vacation

 

Since I understand the fact that non-citizens are all subject to secondary inspection, that is what makes me asking this question.  

Don’t freak out if it does happen to you, though! I had no idea that the secondary inspection existed when I was pulled in for the first time and it was definitely scary. The room was very small and filled with (detained?) people sleeping on benches and on the floor. I had no idea what to expect so at least you won’t have to go through that! Haha. I edited my previous post with this info, but they usually have you sit down  in that waiting room and they get back to you after some time with your gc and passport. No questions asked or phone search. Plus I read that now CBP can’t search your electronics without reasonable suspicion. 
Have fun on your trip! 

[daijia 1]

4 minutes ago, Bzlibem said:

Don’t freak out if it does happen to you, though! I had no idea that the secondary inspection existed when I was pulled in for the first time and it was definitely scary. The room was very small and filled with (detained?) people sleeping on benches and on the floor. I had no idea what to expect so at least you won’t have to go through that! Haha. I edited my previous post with this info, but they usually have you sit down  in that waiting room and they get back to you after some time with your gc and passport. No questions asked or phone search. Plus I read that now CBP can’t search your electronics without reasonable suspicion. 
Have fun on your trip! 

Yes yes just that I would to know what roughly could or might happen during the secondary inspection. I understand no one can provide a precise answer to this, not even a CBP officer. Just it is better to have some expectations rather than knowing nothing. 

 

Thanks for sharing your experience! It is certainly helpful!

 

And I hope you will no longer be pulled to secondary inspection. GE card would certainly help

Edited November 18, 2019 by daijia

[Deagle 508]

I was traveling on extension letter and I didn't have any issues when entering the country. A year later I got my GC snd I was brought into secondary inspection upon returning to the US for almost 6 hours.