I130 Case Denied after sending RFE | f2a & f2b, now appealing (merged)

[Villanelle 4,122]

Seems most likely there is only one friend and the 99.999999999999996 extra 9s were added for emphasis. Anyway not sure why its assumed they were denied for the percentage when its much more logical that they didnt respond to the RFE properly. Wonder if they used the same lawyer that failed to respond to the OPs RFE properly as well. 

[Rasel_Cool 22]

21 hours ago, jcracked52 said:

This thread is bogus. Sorry, OP,  I think you are trolling. 

 

First it's "one of my friends got denial letter" - and his DNA results were "99.96%" - What did his denial letter say? You never told us.

 

Then another friend is denied but hasn't gotten the denial letter and his DNA results were 99.9999999999996% but hasn't gotten the denial letter yet. 

 

If DNA test was legit and done through AABB laboratory, then there is no way I-130 was denied for your "friends"

 

Come on. 

 

Read everything again. U will understand. One of my frnd got his i130 case denied 2 days ago  u shud know denial letter comes after 3-7 days. U can check status with reciptt number online. Thats how he have seen that case is denied. He showed me the dna result. And it was 99.9999999996% ( reason i write more than two 9s is dna results always comes like this.I forgot  exactly  how many 9s dna report used so pressed the 9 for a long time. Peace.

 

And for ur info there is no other frnd. There is Only one frnd that i have mentioned. And still he hasnt received denial letter. Once he gets it. I will update.

[Rasel_Cool 22]

11 minutes ago, Villanelle said:

Seems most likely there is only one friend and the 99.999999999999996 extra 9s were added for emphasis. Anyway not sure why its assumed they were denied for the percentage when its much more logical that they didnt respond to the RFE properly. Wonder if they used the same lawyer that failed to respond to the OPs RFE properly as well. 

Not the same same lawyer. They responded within the deadline. Dna was submitted. Still case was denied. Leta wait for his denial letter. Will update

[Going through 5,671]

Without knowing  your friend's full case details/history,  (ie. immigration history and timeline what was submitted with their initial package, any red flags beforehand, etc.) going to be hard to comment on and/or compare his outcome with what may happen in your situation---I can see why you want to update us with  your friend's info though....probably better to focus on what's happening to you and how to resolve any issues you face, rather than your friend's outcome...no two cases are going to be identical in all aspects.

 

Perhaps your friend can start a thread if he's also a VJ member, about his situation?  This way the thread can stay relevant with your situation and not get confusing/conflicting advice about two separate cases entirely.

Edited December 9, 2019 by Going through

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

3 hours ago, Rasel_Cool said:

Read everything again. U will understand. One of my frnd got his i130 case denied 2 days ago  u shud know denial letter comes after 3-7 days. U can check status with reciptt number online. Thats how he have seen that case is denied. He showed me the dna result. And it was 99.9999999996% ( reason i write more than two 9s is dna results always comes like this.I forgot  exactly  how many 9s dna report used so pressed the 9 for a long time. Peace.

 

And for ur info there is no other frnd. There is Only one frnd that i have mentioned. And still he hasnt received denial letter. Once he gets it. I will update.

Read 14 pages of this stuff all over again? On behalf of the poster you aimed that at, are you freaking kidding? 

Also this is not a cellphone text, please use full words. Forum etiquette. 

[Rasel_Cool 22]

6 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

Read 14 pages of this stuff all over again? On behalf of the poster you aimed that at, are you freaking kidding? 

Also this is not a cellphone text, please use full words. Forum etiquette. 

Doesnt need to read 14 pages. I mentioned to read everything in the last commment AGAIN ( thats mean i told him to re read what he has already read to have a better idea).. 

 

 

[Rasel_Cool 22]

6 hours ago, Going through said:

Without knowing  your friend's full case details/history,  (ie. immigration history and timeline what was submitted with their initial package, any red flags beforehand, etc.) going to be hard to comment on and/or compare his outcome with what may happen in your situation---I can see why you want to update us with  your friend's info though....probably better to focus on what's happening to you and how to resolve any issues you face, rather than your friend's outcome...no two cases are going to be identical in all aspects.

 

Perhaps your friend can start a thread if he's also a VJ member, about his situation?  This way the thread can stay relevant with your situation and not get confusing/conflicting advice about two separate cases entirely.

Ok will not update anything about his case. 

 

And no,he Doesn't want to open a vj account.

[jcracked52 55]

On 12/8/2019 at 10:55 PM, SusieQQQ said:

Hmm, but that link also says "DNA testing reliability has advanced to the industry-accepted standard of 99.5 percent" which makes me think it's outdated vs the other one. Anyway if it is a factual case it would be more enlightening if the OP mentioned if that rejection happened in the same situation as his, that is, originally not bothering to do the test and then trying to submit it late. In which case it's not the DNA itself that is the issue but the lackadaisical response to the RFE.

Interestingly, this is directly from Adjudicator's Field Manual - 21.2 Factors Common to the Adjudication of All Relative Visa Petitions:

 

Part (H)

 

Plausibility of Parentage (Percent)	Interpretation
99.80 - 99.90	Practically Proved
99.1 - 99.80	Extremely Likely
95 - 99	Very Likely
90 - 95	Likely
80 - 90	Undecided
Less than 80	Not Useful

Edited December 12, 2019 by jcracked52

[Rasel_Cool 22]

On 12/10/2019 at 12:14 AM, Villanelle said:

Seems most likely there is only one friend and the 99.999999999999996 extra 9s were added for emphasis. Anyway not sure why its assumed they were denied for the percentage when its much more logical that they didnt respond to the RFE properly. Wonder if they used the same lawyer that failed to respond to the OPs RFE properly as well. 

My friend's denial letter came.  What was the reason for denial? Would anyone pls explain and what should he do?

On 12/10/2019 at 3:58 AM, Going through said:

Without knowing  your friend's full case details/history,  (ie. immigration history and timeline what was submitted with their initial package, any red flags beforehand, etc.) going to be hard to comment on and/or compare his outcome with what may happen in your situation---I can see why you want to update us with  your friend's info though....probably better to focus on what's happening to you and how to resolve any issues you face, rather than your friend's outcome...no two cases are going to be identical in all aspects.

 

Perhaps your friend can start a thread if he's also a VJ member, about his situation?  This way the thread can stay relevant with your situation and not get confusing/conflicting advice about two separate cases entirely.

My friend's denial letter came.  What was the reason for denial? Would anyone pls explain and what should he do?

[Rasel_Cool 22]

On 12/9/2019 at 9:55 AM, SusieQQQ said:

Hmm, but that link also says "DNA testing reliability has advanced to the industry-accepted standard of 99.5 percent" which makes me think it's outdated vs the other one. Anyway if it is a factual case it would be more enlightening if the OP mentioned if that rejection happened in the same situation as his, that is, originally not bothering to do the test and then trying to submit it late. In which case it's not the DNA itself that is the issue but the lackadaisical response to the RFE.

My friend's denial letter came.  What was the reason for denial? Would anyone pls explain and what should he do?

[Unlockable 7,314]

25 minutes ago, Rasel_Cool said:

My friend's denial letter came.  What was the reason for denial? Would anyone pls explain and what should he do?

 

Everything is explained in the letter. The denial was due to not responding to the RFE. As you can see, it says you can not appeal. But you can request to try to have the case reopened based on evidence you have that he, in fact, sent the evidence.

[Going through 5,671]

2 hours ago, Rasel_Cool said:

My friend's denial letter came.  What was the reason for denial? Would anyone pls explain and what should he do?

It says why right in the letter.  Your friend was given a time limit to respond to the RFE and they have no record of a response being sent within that time.  It was therefore deemed abandoned, and denied (as stated in the letter).

 

What he can do is also explained in the letter.  He cannot file an appeal.  He CAN file a motion to reopen (which is different than an appeal), ONLY IF he can prove the denial was in error due to being able to prove at least one of the criteria 1-3 was met at the time the original application was filed.

 

From what you've said so far about your friend's case, he would not meet criteria #1 as the evidence they requested was obviously material.  He wouldn't be able to meet criteria #2 unless he can undoubtedly prove that he sent the documents in with the initial filing (how does one prove what was actually inside an envelope?), OR prove that he responded to the RFE on time (proven with proof of tracking or delivery---a receipt from the post office only showing that it was mailed out is not going to be sufficient).  He would not be able to meet criteria #3 unless he can prove the RFE request was sent to the wrong address (again, how would he prove that?...another friend simply saying "oh it got sent to my house by mistake" won't work if he thinks that will).  They want proof.

 

Alternatively, If your friend has proof that the RFE response was delivered in time, he can send evidence of that (as explained in the letter).  Did he get tracking/delivery confirmation on the RFE response he sent?  Most do with important documents/when dealing with the government....certainly the lawyer he is using would have done that.

 

 

Edited December 13, 2019 by Going through

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

5 hours ago, Rasel_Cool said:

My friend's denial letter came.  What was the reason for denial? Would anyone pls explain and what should he do?

My friend's denial letter came.  What was the reason for denial? Would anyone pls explain and what should he do?

 

5 hours ago, Rasel_Cool said:

My friend's denial letter came.  What was the reason for denial? Would anyone pls explain and what should he do?

Again. 

You. Only. Need. To. Post. It. Once.

we can all see the same posts, I promise you. It will be answered. You don’t need to post every question three times.

 

the question has been answered above already.

Edited December 13, 2019 by SusieQQQ

[ihsan 7]

6 hours ago, Rasel_Cool said:

My friend's denial letter came.  What was the reason for denial? Would anyone pls explain and what should he do?

did your friend send the response if any ( at all ) before or after this decision was taken? 

[ihsan 7]

On 12/9/2019 at 10:55 PM, Rasel_Cool said:

Read everything again. U will understand. One of my frnd got his i130 case denied 2 days ago  u shud know denial letter comes after 3-7 days. U can check status with reciptt number online. Thats how he have seen that case is denied. He showed me the dna result. And it was 99.9999999996% ( reason i write more than two 9s is dna results always comes like this.I forgot  exactly  how many 9s dna report used so pressed the 9 for a long time. Peace.

 

And for ur info there is no other frnd. There is Only one frnd that i have mentioned. And still he hasnt received denial letter. Once he gets it. I will update.

did your friend sent the response on time?