The impeachment goat and pony show

[Dashinka 24,505]

I will say one thing about this circus, it actually caused me to start watching a news channel again.  It has been more than two years since I turned one on.

[TBoneTX 45,298]

Adam Schiff is insane and should be institutionalized.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joe-lieberman-founders-trump-acquittal

 

 

Joe Lieberman, former Dem VP nominee, says Founding Fathers would have 'intended' Trump's acquittal

[TBoneTX 45,298]

Thank you for another highly readable link title, see man

Edited February 3, 2020 by TBoneTX

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

13 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Thank you for another highly readable link title, see man

He's a nice guy saving the elderly from eye strain.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Roastmaster Glenn Greenwald killing it:

 

 

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You can tell the difference between the rational left and the deranged left (using a TDS/impeachment theme but branching out to other things), even my right wing friends who simply think they're all the same, I think you can spot it:

 

The left in general:

- Socialism

- Pro choice or pro-abortion

- High taxes

- Universal healthcare

- etc.

 

Deranged left:

- Suddenly make arguments they never bothered with before this past decade:

1) Free market! (to justify censorship, coercive behavior, but not actually a free market)

2) Free trade! (to justify getting rid of the jobs they don't like, such as coal, oil, etc., also not free trade, a similar caricature to free market)

3) Use of government surveillance, good! (very much anti-Assange)

4) Use of government authority against political opponents, good!

5) Free speech, bad

6) Everything Trump agrees with, bad, everything Trump disagrees with, good!

7) Impeach Trump! Who cares if it's a lie, I want my way.

8 ) Fav politicians: Hillary, Warren, Biden, suddenly listens to Kristol, Frum, Corn, and other neoliberals and neocons

9) Fav media/personalities: Maddow, Anderson Cooper, Stelter, Joy Reid, Lemon, Tur, etc. (and this type of media person)

 

Rational left:

1) Leftist views suppress "free market" caricature

2) Leftist views suppress "free trade" caricature.. often anti-globalist or restricted globalism like Naomi Klein

3) Use of government surveillance, bad! (very much pro-Assange)

4) Use of government against political opponents, bad!

5) Free speech, good!

6) Trump doing things that go against my views, bad, Trump doing things that don't go against my beliefs, good. (ignores/criticizes the TDS stuff)

7) Don't impeach Trump about the issues cited, this is garbage, he's done other things I believe that warrants impeachment, none of these cited things are it. 

8 ) believes catering to TDS distracts from actual leftist debate, gets mad at all the time wasted on it

9) Fav politicians: Less perceptibly "corrupt" liberals/lefties: Tulsi, Bernie, AOC

10) Fav media/personalities: Glenn, Michael Tracey, Taibbi, etc.

 

Lots more clear distinctions but this is just a primer. These differences are getting more noticeably higher as primary season heats up along with the vitriol.

Edited February 4, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Is it over yet?  Officially, I mean.

[Boiler 45,519]

Wednesday

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

9 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Is it over yet?  Officially, I mean.

Wed 4pm eastern is the votes on both articles separately.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

I also want to point out that this likely kills any Senate based investigation into Hunter/Burisma/Joe. 

 

They didn't want to investigate one of their own anyways. Hits too close to home.

 

It does make the distinction fairly obvious at this point between "deliberative body" and "corrupt body". 

 

Thankfully, in politics, there's plenty of distractions to make people forget all about this issue. The only ways it gets taken up at this point is if there's a resurrection of partisan impeachment (and makes it to the Senate), beyond that, it's either a GOP led House (also quite unlikely), or Trump led bureaus (also unlikely, as the Senate would have to confirm a Trumpian cabinet leader and they won't).

Edited February 4, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Dashinka 24,505]

16 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

Is it over yet?  Officially, I mean.

I heard the fat lady is scheduled to sing around 4:15pm tomorrow.

[Dashinka 24,505]

1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

I also want to point out that this likely kills any Senate based investigation into Hunter/Burisma/Joe. 

 

They didn't want to investigate one of their own anyways. Hits too close to home.

 

It does make the distinction fairly obvious at this point between "deliberative body" and "corrupt body". 

 

Thankfully, in politics, there's plenty of distractions to make people forget all about this issue. The only ways it gets taken up at this point is if there's a resurrection of partisan impeachment (and makes it to the Senate), beyond that, it's either a GOP led House (also quite unlikely), or Trump led bureaus (also unlikely, as the Senate would have to confirm a Trumpian cabinet leader and they won't).

Heck, with Iowa and other items, most media is giving impeachment very little coverage.  All will be forgotten in a few days.  I do wonder if Trump will say anything tonight about it?  His press secretary says no, but he sometimes goes off script.  Personally, I think he will have a great speech and let sleeping dogs lie.