Hillary Clinton says 'many, many, many people' want her to join 2020 Democratic primary

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

7 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Don't be scared, he just speaks logic and (what used to be) common sense.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 minute ago, elmcitymaven said:

It's ok, Common Sense and Logic ain't nuttin' to be afeared of.   You'll be fine...

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

1 minute ago, ALFKAD said:

It's ok, Common Sense and Logic ain't nuttin' to be afeared of.   You'll be fine...

You're cute, boo boo. *pat pat*

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 minute ago, elmcitymaven said:

You're cute, boo boo. *pat pat*

You should see me on SATURDAYS!!!   

[elmcitymaven 9,712]

4 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

You should see me on SATURDAYS!!!   

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

52 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

If there's fault with Mr. Trump, I believe it's that he misunderstood just how resistant the swamp would be to being drained. He will make much more progress during his second term. Which, thanks to the Democrats, is firmly in the bag.

What's funny is hearing and seeing alot of big people in the Podcast world on both sides are subscribing to this thinking as well. The Rising had a guy on the other day that said that this reminds him of Nixon because the Democrats were ok with Trump doing other stuff but as soon as he sought dirt on Biden. Then they took the gloves off and went after him hardcore. 

[90DayFinancier 910]

1 hour ago, Boris Farage said:

One knows when one is serving the just cause when the opposition's only rejoinder is slander.

Who says that was slander?

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

2 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

What's funny is hearing and seeing alot of big people in the Podcast world on both sides are subscribing to this thinking as well. The Rising had a guy on the other day that said that this reminds him of Nixon because the Democrats were ok with Trump doing other stuff but as soon as he sought dirt on Biden. Then they took the gloves off and went after him hardcore. 

As I've been saying all along, it's all about the preservation of relationships.

 

These relationships transcend parties.

 

When you see CNN or other media getting leaks from the government, this is the relationships I speak of. These people spend much of their lives getting to where they are by forming connections with others. You can't just trust some Joe Schmoe off the street. It takes time and such to build trust and thus relationships, particularly this contrived. And because in many ways they wind up being gatekeepers of information, it becomes incredibly easy to control narratives.

 

Trump comes along, bypasses these people, doesn't get their blessing, they feel threatened. They try to smear Trump, utilize connections between media, gov, Congress, etc. Trump utilizes social media, further bypasses legacy media, makes them irrelevant enough to lose, these people feel even more threatened. For us, if our job is threatened, or going extinct, we find other ways to make our job relevant, or we train ourselves in something else. For these people, they feel so entitled to what they do, so full of themselves, they just doubled down and have went full tabloid/gaslight mode. 

 

It's not even a super duper secret, you can see with the handful of bureaucrats/bureau employees, media personalities, and even celebrities, who themselves were comically candid on social media, they felt their positions and their relationships meant *they* were in charge of deciding who becomes President, in charge of deciding policies, and so on. The very same entitled attitude you saw in the media, even in Congress.  

 

It's quite complex but in a lot of ways quite simple. 

 

We are the peasants down here debating lower level concoctions they contrive together.

 

When you see the masses say garbage like "if you vote for Nader/Perot/Johnson/Stein/etc you're throwing away your vote", this is actually a design by those people in these establishments aimed at facilitating this two party facade, because it makes their job easier. They have less people to form relationships with, which means less channels, which means easier information control. In statistics, you're minimizing the error, keeping things within a controlled boundary to where the small percent of outliers wind up less consequential. 

 

Other examples of this system trying to perpetuate itself:

- When the Senate refuses to consider Trump appointees because they aren't those they have relationships with, not approved authority

- When bureaucrats come forward overtly suggesting Trump's policy is bad/wrong/illegal because its not "established" policy.. what they really mean is its not policy they want because the one they want perpetuates an international circulation of money, power, and relationships they benefit from

 

List goes on.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,382]

1 hour ago, Boris Farage said:

 

The House and Senate will be recovered by the Republicans in 2020, and now that the RINOs have either been pushed out, retired, or expired, Obamacare will finally fall, and we can return to a capitalist democracy. Things are looking very good. Thank you Nancy.

So what are we going to replace Obamacare with?

[Ban Hammer 13,554]

15 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

So what are we going to replace Obamacare with?

hillarycare...........

Edited November 19, 2019 by Ban Hammer

[Boris Farage 353]

15 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

So what are we going to replace Obamacare with?

Why replace it with anything? I have no interest in paying for your health care, as I'm sure you have no interest in paying for mine.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,382]

55 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Why replace it with anything? I have no interest i1st world.n paying for your health care, as I'm sure you have no interest in paying for mine.

Yes but you do pay for it one way or another. We can do it economically or not.

We currently have one of the worst medical systems in the 1st world.  Why try to improve on that ?  Most conservatives have a blind spot on healthcare 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

14 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Yes but you do pay for it one way or another. We can do it economically or not.

We currently have one of the worst medical systems in the 1st world.  Why try to improve on that ?  Most conservatives have a blind spot on healthcare 

Worst?  I disagree.  Very expensive?  Yes.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

20 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Yes but you do pay for it one way or another. We can do it economically or not.

We currently have one of the worst medical systems in the 1st world.  Why try to improve on that ?  Most conservatives have a blind spot on healthcare 

And when it comes to issues that resonate with populace, with families, jobs is #1, which is why Trump is doing so well, but #2 is healthcare. While both parties openly shill for the insurance industry, Republicans seem far less like people that will actually do something useful about it, which really helps Democrats. If Republicans want to utilize "the market", and stop employing the socialism caricature, they have to get serious and literally gut the insurance industry, cutting out a significant part of overhead into the costs of healthcare, rather than shilling for the insurance industry or even doing their own ridiculous Obamacare-like mandates which are even worse. Healthcare isn't sustainable with the inflated costs.

 

When anyone talks about Canada, Republicans often caricature Canada's healthcare as "people running to Canada to get surgeries/healthcare".. this is extremely rare, and in most of these cases, they're patients basically trying to play doctor. Overwhelmingly, people in Canada are not dying while waiting for care. Rather, Canadians are quick to seek preventative care, live healthier lifestyles, resulting in dealing with less serious issues. When I got my citizenship in Canada, one of the ways I proved my "presence" in Canada was utilizing medical billing records I retrieved from the provinces for every family doctor visit, specialist, ER visit, surgeon, etc. In there, I saw the costs charged, by the doctors, for each itemized type of care, etc. and my jaw hit the floor. They fund as little as necessary, and that's the point, whether government or market. You spend the minimal amount necessary. This idea that endless empty beds and insanely wasteful high costs means good healthcare is just dumb.

 

So in many ways it seems inevitable that single payer will come to the US. If Republicans don't want this, they need to actually get serious about dropping costs. Either gut the insurance industry leaving people to negotiate directly with providers, or get on board with sensible universal that has oversight, like on the local/state level. I fear a federally run universal just like the Republicans do, but if they keep approaching things the way they are now, it's the Democrats that are going to get their way on this, which is the worst possible scenario. People aren't going to just settle into lifelong medical debt and a joke of healthcare be okay with it.

 

 

[Dashinka 24,800]

17 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

As I've been saying all along, it's all about the preservation of relationships.

 

These relationships transcend parties.

 

When you see CNN or other media getting leaks from the government, this is the relationships I speak of. These people spend much of their lives getting to where they are by forming connections with others. You can't just trust some Joe Schmoe off the street. It takes time and such to build trust and thus relationships, particularly this contrived. And because in many ways they wind up being gatekeepers of information, it becomes incredibly easy to control narratives.

 

Trump comes along, bypasses these people, doesn't get their blessing, they feel threatened. They try to smear Trump, utilize connections between media, gov, Congress, etc. Trump utilizes social media, further bypasses legacy media, makes them irrelevant enough to lose, these people feel even more threatened. For us, if our job is threatened, or going extinct, we find other ways to make our job relevant, or we train ourselves in something else. For these people, they feel so entitled to what they do, so full of themselves, they just doubled down and have went full tabloid/gaslight mode. 

 

It's not even a super duper secret, you can see with the handful of bureaucrats/bureau employees, media personalities, and even celebrities, who themselves were comically candid on social media, they felt their positions and their relationships meant *they* were in charge of deciding who becomes President, in charge of deciding policies, and so on. The very same entitled attitude you saw in the media, even in Congress.  

 

It's quite complex but in a lot of ways quite simple. 

 

We are the peasants down here debating lower level concoctions they contrive together.

 

When you see the masses say garbage like "if you vote for Nader/Perot/Johnson/Stein/etc you're throwing away your vote", this is actually a design by those people in these establishments aimed at facilitating this two party facade, because it makes their job easier. They have less people to form relationships with, which means less channels, which means easier information control. In statistics, you're minimizing the error, keeping things within a controlled boundary to where the small percent of outliers wind up less consequential. 

 

Other examples of this system trying to perpetuate itself:

- When the Senate refuses to consider Trump appointees because they aren't those they have relationships with, not approved authority

- When bureaucrats come forward overtly suggesting Trump's policy is bad/wrong/illegal because its not "established" policy.. what they really mean is its not policy they want because the one they want perpetuates an international circulation of money, power, and relationships they benefit from

 

List goes on.

Unlimited power, or at the very least the perception of unlimited power, does tend to corrupt those that perceive having it.  Those of us in hoi polloi don't understand that the media and bureaucrats control us completely and we should respect that and react (vote accordingly), of course we thumbed our collective electoral noses at them and this is unacceptable. 

 

Edited November 19, 2019 by Bill & Katya