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[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

9 hours ago, Duke & Marie said:

Thailand is awesome for surgery and super cheap.. gosh if I was brave enough my body would be 20 years younger... 😂 

I think you just need to talk to her? Say how you feel that not adding etc makes you nervous or even feels like she’s ashamed of you.. etc... if she still don’t add you them perhaps there is something she’s hiding.. 

Just remember too though, social media has been the undoing of many couples... really quite a nasty little tool.. particularly where trust in a relationship is not established 

When I was working in Afghanistan I had a Filipino friend of mine who had a sheet of plastic surgery services offered by this one clinic in Thailand with the prices next to the services. Let me tell you that it is super cheap to do almost anything like that in Thailand. It's even cheaper than going to Mexico from the USA to do plastic surgery

Edited November 12, 2019 by Cyberfx1024

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I’m from the Philippines and everything you shared on your post just doesn’t make sense from my perspective as a local. If she doesn’t want her friends to “take you away” from her because of a bad experience, she can still add you on Facebook without having to post photos together or tagging each other. There are so many ways to keep the friends list private as well. It’s just suspicious because generally speaking, Filipinos “love” their Facebook accounts.

 

Like what everyone says, trust is one of the integral foundations of a (working) relationship. I’m definitely not an expert but it seems like you don’t really believe what she says because you know to yourself her story doesn’t make sense. And I cannot blame you because this is a major life change if you’re planning to be with her. But don’t you think, if ever you decide not to pursue the relationship, that it’s better to end things now instead of wasting more time, money, and emotional investment going through the process only to find out that you’ve been played? 

 

It doesn’t help the reputation of Filipinos at all (and it’s unfortunate because some people tend to generalize lol), but sadly, it happens. And some people are exceptionally good at deceiving others and they know what to say to make it seem like they’re just being used. 

 

9 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So what exactly does she do for a living? This is a lot of money for Filipinos to just throw around like that.

I definitely agree with this as well. It just doesn’t add up. 

 

God bless you. I hope you’ll figure things out. 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

9 minutes ago, chxakx said:

I’m from the Philippines and everything you shared on your post just doesn’t make sense from my perspective as a local. If she doesn’t want her friends to “take you away” from her because of a bad experience, she can still add you on Facebook without having to post photos together or tagging each other. There are so many ways to keep the friends list private as well. It’s just suspicious because generally speaking, Filipinos “love” their Facebook accounts.

Like what everyone says, trust is one of the integral foundations of a (working) relationship. I’m definitely not an expert but it seems like you don’t really believe what she says because you know to yourself her story doesn’t make sense. And I cannot blame you because this is a major life change if you’re planning to be with her. But don’t you think, if ever you decide not to pursue the relationship, that it’s better to end things now instead of wasting more time, money, and emotional investment going through the process only to find out that you’ve been played? 

It doesn’t help the reputation of Filipinos at all (and it’s unfortunate because some people tend to generalize lol), but sadly, it happens. And some people are exceptionally good at deceiving others and they know what to say to make it seem like they’re just being used. I definitely agree with this as well. It just doesn’t add up. God bless you. I hope you’ll figure things out. 

Yeah I am not pinoy but I am married to one and travel back to Pinas a lot. So I do know a lot about Filipinos and the Philippines in general. This thing just screams red flags to me. 

 

@KJ34 if this is all legit are you ok with a escort webchat girlfriend? We are only telling you this because this is a common scam across the Philippines where women chat with Western men and get money from them.

[KJ34 10]

17 minutes ago, chxakx said:

I’m from the Philippines and everything you shared on your post just doesn’t make sense from my perspective as a local. If she doesn’t want her friends to “take you away” from her because of a bad experience, she can still add you on Facebook without having to post photos together or tagging each other. There are so many ways to keep the friends list private as well. It’s just suspicious because generally speaking, Filipinos “love” their Facebook accounts.

 

Like what everyone says, trust is one of the integral foundations of a (working) relationship. I’m definitely not an expert but it seems like you don’t really believe what she says because you know to yourself her story doesn’t make sense. And I cannot blame you because this is a major life change if you’re planning to be with her. But don’t you think, if ever you decide not to pursue the relationship, that it’s better to end things now instead of wasting more time, money, and emotional investment going through the process only to find out that you’ve been played? 

 

It doesn’t help the reputation of Filipinos at all (and it’s unfortunate because some people tend to generalize lol), but sadly, it happens. And some people are exceptionally good at deceiving others and they know what to say to make it seem like they’re just being used. 

 

I definitely agree with this as well. It just doesn’t add up. 

 

God bless you. I hope you’ll figure things out. 

Yeah well today just flat out said listen if you don't add me on FB then it's done, then she said no I'll add you after the wedding, and I'm  like what??? So she said how is it weird i just want my privacy and post the things i want...and i stood by it and she said i was being immature about arguing about FB. Now usually when she's mad and i try to call she hangs up and usually keep calling  until i get a anwser so we can talk.so i block her on messenger and she sending voice clips crying on skype, saying let's fix this I'll add you(which she never did even after this)saying she wants to kill herself, asking my mom to get me to fix this, commenting on my photo saying someone help her with me and she kept  calling on skype and i kept hanging up, so i finally called back and she's crying uncontrollably and i asked about the escort site and she said her trans friend suggested she do it to get easy money for her sex change surgery because she didn't want help from me and she wanted to be a woman before her wedding day and the dysphoria was killing her everyday, so like she lied to me twice, and she was willing to do that for this... she said she never got any customers either 

Edited November 12, 2019 by KJ34

[KJ34 10]

Just now, Cyberfx1024 said:

Yeah I am not pinoy but I am married to one and travel back to Pinas a lot. So I do know a lot about Filipinos and the Philippines in general. This thing just screams red flags to me. 

 

@KJ34 if this is all legit are you ok with a escort webchat girlfriend? We are only telling you this because this is a common scam across the Philippines where women chat with Western men and get money from them.

She did this for her sex change surgery  and i don't  got sqaut I'm  still living with family saving money so the only thing she gains is freedom to be with herself freely in the u.s 

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3 minutes ago, KJ34 said:

Yeah well today just flat out said listen if you don't add me on FB then it's done, then she said no I'll add you after the wedding, and I'm  like what??? So she said how is it weird i just want my privacy and post the things i want...and i stood by it and she said i was being immature about arguing about FB. Now usually when she's mad and i try to call she hangs up and usually keep calling  until i get a anwser so we can talk.so i block her on messenger and she sending voice clips crying on skype, saying let's fix this I'll add you(which she never did even after this)saying she wants to kill herself, asking my mom to get me to fix this, commenting on my photo saying someone help her with me and she kept  calling on skype and i kept hanging up, so i finally called back and she's crying uncontrollably and i asked about the escort site and she said her trans friend suggested she do it to get easy money for her sex change surgery because she didn't want help from me and she wanted to be a woman before her wedding day and the dysphoria was killing her everyday, so like she lied to me twice, and she was willing to do that for this...

Again, I’m so sorry you’re going through this but it’s a good thing you found out everything. Whatever you decide is up to you. But hopefully you’ll consider what’s  best for you. There are soooo many people out there. Personally, lying about this (or even just lying, really) is such a big deal and I wouldn’t want to go through this. 

[KJ34 10]

1 minute ago, chxakx said:

Again, I’m so sorry you’re going through this but it’s a good thing you found out everything. Whatever you decide is up to you. But hopefully you’ll consider what’s  best for you. There are soooo many people out there. Personally, lying about this (or even just lying, really) is such a big deal and I wouldn’t want to go through this. 

Yeah.. i mean she's not a bad person  there's  a lot of good in her, but the fact she lied then it's  hard to trust her again, but sucks you know? I really do love her and seeing her  break down like that killed me, i think that's  why i dont want to end this and try to look past this but we're gonna have a long talk when she wakes up about this

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11 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Yeah I am not pinoy but I am married to one and travel back to Pinas a lot. So I do know a lot about Filipinos and the Philippines in general. This thing just screams red flags to me. 

 

@KJ34 if this is all legit are you ok with a escort webchat girlfriend? We are only telling you this because this is a common scam across the Philippines where women chat with Western men and get money from them.

Definitely agree.

 

No offense meant. I’m not trying to insult you or your fiancée. We’re just trying to share our unbiased opinion. I’ve seen it happen to people (in person and there are so many viral Facebook posts about this as well). Some were taken advantage of to the point that they’ll go home without their stuff because it was taken by the person they thought they were gonna have a vacation with and luckily, they have a return ticket booked. Also, some to the point that they have to work to earn money just to be able to go back. 

 

Just hopefully, whatever you decide, it will work out in your favor. Best of luck to you.

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26 minutes ago, KJ34 said:

Yeah.. i mean she's not a bad person  there's  a lot of good in her, but the fact she lied then it's  hard to trust her again, but sucks you know? I really do love her and seeing her  break down like that killed me, i think that's  why i dont want to end this and try to look past this but we're gonna have a long talk when she wakes up about this

Scamming is a full time organized business in the Philippines.  My wife knew some locals in Pateros that were "in love" with dozens on Americans.  There are too many red flags here.  Not adding you to her FB until after the wedding is the strangest thing I've ever heard.  She is working very hard to hide things from you.  This is still your life but it fits the pattern that many of us have seen before.  I wish you the best with whatever you decide but she is hiding too much from a future husband to be trusted.  Without open communication and trust, there really is no relationship.  Download some of the pics from her escort site and do a google search.  Chances are she is on many sites.  I believe it is photos.google.com

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43 minutes ago, KJ34 said:

She did this for her sex change surgery  and i don't  got sqaut I'm  still living with family saving money so the only thing she gains is freedom to be with herself freely in the u.s 

Just make sure this isn't trickle truth (truth with omission: on the site but didn't sleep with anyone even when they did.) I mean, where did get the money for your tickets, etc.? The job that you were talking about pays $200 - $500/month. And that Avon thing? That's not lucrative, that's honestly more of a socializing thing that earns some change.

 

Why would your fiance buy you a ticket when they can't pay their apartment. This sounds like a bait and switch tactic. "I don't need your money,.I'll even pay for.x,y,z." Then when they have you hooked, that's when they ask for money. Scammers know that asking for money out front is a red flag so they offer you something to lure you in

 

You should ask for access to that account, see if there was no interaction with anyone.

36 minutes ago, KJ34 said:

Yeah.. i mean she's not a bad person  there's  a lot of good in her, but the fact she lied then it's  hard to trust her again, but sucks you know? I really do love her and seeing her  break down like that killed me, i think that's  why i dont want to end this and try to look past this but we're gonna have a long talk when she wakes up about this

Was the crying sincere? There are some manipulative people out there who will do anything to get to the US.

 

Besides, you have to ask yourself, are you okay with being with someone who thinks it's okay to cheat (at the very least, sell their body) for money. Because that's what this is.

 

And for fcks sake, get tested.

 

Sorry your going thru this. Hopefully it all works out for you.

Edited November 12, 2019 by killbill

[KJ34 10]

4 minutes ago, killbill said:

Just make sure this isn't trickle truth (truth with omission: on the site but didn't sleep with anyone even when they did.) I mean, where did get the money for your tickets, etc.? The job that you were talking about pays $200 - $500/month. And that Avon thing? That's not lucrative, that's honestly more of a socializing thing that earns some change.

 

Why would your fiance buy you a ticket when they can't pay their apartment. This sounds like a bait and switch tactic. "I don't need your money,.I'll even pay for.x,y,z." Then when they have you hooked, that's when they ask for money. Scammers know that asking for money out front is a red flag so they offer you something to lure you in

 

You should ask for access to that account, see if there was no interaction with anyone.

Was the crying sincere? There are some manipulative people out there who will do anything to get to the US.

 

Besides, you have to ask yourself, are you okay with being with someone who thinks it's okay to cheat (at the very least, sell their body) for money. Because that's what this is.

 

And for fcks sake, get tested.

 

Sorry your going thru this. Hopefully it all works out for you.

Yeah there were tears rolling down her face and yeah you're right 

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11 hours ago, Duke & Marie said:

I’m sorry, I may be a little bias but I’ve seen too many male Aussie friends of mine have similar issues with dare I say Thai ladies 🙈 that have turned out to be scams for cash or visas.. t

 

im seeing major alarm bells here... 

 

if you do do a passport check just know a lot of countries no longer stamp passports it’s all going electronic these days.. I’ve got just two entry and exit stamps for maybe 10 countries.. 

 

i wish you luck, truely, but if your all already having trust and secrecy issues, you might wanna reconsider the whole relationship thing

But entry and exit from the Philippines does still stamp

[RO_AH 1,667]

After reading your recent comments I will say that you are being played by a pro. That's my opinion. When you stop trying to make excuses because of "love" you will figure it out. I have been played, I have people I know who have been played, I know people there in the Philippines that play foreigners. When it is right, and it;s the RIGHT person, there will be no red flags. In this case there are too many to count.

 

Here's a test. Say she does not have to add you, but give you the password so you can look at the account. She will not and you can report back the excuses, I will also bet you that, she has more than one account.

 

I have my wife's password to her Facebook. She gave it to me when we first became a couple...After she added me of course and posted our relationship status.

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4 minutes ago, RO_AH said:

After reading your recent comments I will say that you are being played by a pro. That's my opinion. When you stop trying to make excuses because of "love" you will figure it out. I have been played, I have people I know who have been played, I know people there in the Philippines that play foreigners. When it is right, and it;s the RIGHT person, there will be no red flags. In this case there are too many to count.

 

Here's a test. Say she does not have to add you, but give you the password so you can look at the account. She will not and you can report back the excuses, I will also bet you that, she has more than one account.

 

I have my wife's password to her Facebook. She gave it to me when we first became a couple...After she added me of course and posted our relationship status.

Yeah I'm  not doing all that, I'm over it we're just gonna part ways

Edited November 12, 2019 by KJ34

[KJ34 10]

While this is really heart breaking i appreciate all of the help guys, as for me seeing anyone overseas again? Not really sure about that