Wind and Solar Power Have Become Amazingly Affordable

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'I like oil, we're keeping the oil': Trump on American forces in Syria

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As most U.S. troops withdraw, others move into Syria to help guard oil fields

U.S. special operations forces who were targeting ISIS are leaving Syria. They're being replaced by infantry who are helping Syrian Kurds hold territory

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/most-u-s-troops-withdraw-others-move-syria-help-guard-n1076691

[laylalex 7,284]

I was about to say, Syria. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/25/world/middleeast/esper-troops-syria.html

[TBoneTX 44,868]

12 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

it would have added at least 10 hrs each way as every time we filled up we had a range of 500+ miles in about five minutes, For an EV charging 40-60 minutes would have netted us about 200 miles of range in ideal conditions.

Giving nonmathematicians a headache!!!  Reported!!!!!!!

[TBoneTX 44,868]

11 hours ago, yuna628 said:

we run all LED bulbs, open windows, and keep the heating/air down low. That's saved us a lot of money this year.

Buddy of mine intentionally cranks A/C and heat at the slightest provocation.

Has a lot of personal investments in power companies and energy stocks, and figures he's adding to his returns.

[TBoneTX 44,868]

2 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

defending windmills, solar and damns

Terms of Service violation - eventual expulsion for too much of this

2 hours ago, Boiler said:

I know somebody who had a gig defending a damn

Now a former VJ member for repeated TOS violations

Edited November 9, 2019 by TBoneTX

[Dashinka 24,172]

10 hours ago, belinda63 said:

Best idea I ever saw is go to the big parking lots like Walmart in Texas, NM, etc. where parking in the shade is a premium. Make covers over the parking areas with solar panels on them. Customers win because they get to park in the shade and the store wins from all the electricity generated. Now how to stop them from being stolen, vandalized, etc would be another issue.

At the university I frequent for football games, they actually did this in many of their more expansive parking areas.  The only drawback is during a thaw when the ice is falling off the solar roofs.

[Neonred 3,524]

10 hours ago, belinda63 said:

Best idea I ever saw is go to the big parking lots like Walmart in Texas, NM, etc. where parking in the shade is a premium. Make covers over the parking areas with solar panels on them. Customers win because they get to park in the shade and the store wins from all the electricity generated. Now how to stop them from being stolen, vandalized, etc would be another issue.

Your post brought back some memories.  They tried this in Key West a few years ago and.....well...

 

https://www.flkeysnews.com/news/local/article91464472.html

Key West leaders call new solar panel installation ‘an eyesore’

A few months before Key West’s new $19 million City Hall is set to open, two city commissioners say the solar panels there that double as carports in the parking lot have to go.

They’re ugly, say commissioners Margaret Romero and Richard Payne, who suggested relocation to the roof of the old Glynn Archer Elementary School gym behind the main building, 1300 White St.

“I’d like to see those solar panels relocated to rooftops,” Payne said, who called the panels “an ugly carport” and questioned whether they meet historic district zoning rules.

 

 

27 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

At the university I frequent for football games, they actually did this in many of their more expansive parking areas.  The only drawback is during a thaw when the ice is falling off the solar roofs.

Apparently sometimes they are just too ugly!

Edited November 9, 2019 by Neonred

[Dashinka 24,172]

32 minutes ago, Neonred said:

Your post brought back some memories.  They tried this in Key West a few years ago and.....well...

 

https://www.flkeysnews.com/news/local/article91464472.html

Key West leaders call new solar panel installation ‘an eyesore’

A few months before Key West’s new $19 million City Hall is set to open, two city commissioners say the solar panels there that double as carports in the parking lot have to go.

They’re ugly, say commissioners Margaret Romero and Richard Payne, who suggested relocation to the roof of the old Glynn Archer Elementary School gym behind the main building, 1300 White St.

“I’d like to see those solar panels relocated to rooftops,” Payne said, who called the panels “an ugly carport” and questioned whether they meet historic district zoning rules.

 

 

Apparently sometimes they are just too ugly!

You are right, they are pretty ugly.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Y'all do realize that solar power is 98% of the reason we are experiencing global warming, right?  The sun's rays,  which would normally pierce the atmosphere, causing the air to heat to a small level as the rays pass and die when the hit the ground, are now being reflected back away from the earth, heating the air nearly doubly (about 95%), because the rays are not dying when they hit the soil.

 

So in a way, solar electricity production is a self-limiting energy source... as we see more solar panels installed, more electricity is produced, and the earth is warming ever faster.  Eventually, humans will begin to perish from the heat,  thereby reducing the energy needs, until a perfect balance is reached.  Science says this balance will happen in about 9°C or so.  Of course, none of us here will be alive to discuss it, but some who survive the sunpocalpyse will find this post, and will raise my name to new heights as a prophet.

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23 hours ago, 90DayFinancier said:

I agree with you on the oil reserves, there more out there if you don't care about the environmental impact.

I disagree with the leveling power of subsidies. What you are not counting is the tax preferences provided to oil and gas. 37 billion in I investment is supported by 88 billion in federal, state and local subsidies. On top of that you have the cost of subjectcation if personal property rights to mineral rights in some states.   And then there is foriegn oil extraction: America troops defending foriegn oil wells, infrastructure and transportation and of course the blood shed defending these tyrants who do not respect Western values. 

 

If you can show me the costs of defending windmills, solar and damns as outweighing the carbon cost, I will amend my opinion.

The gumbement makes way more per gallon of gas than the oil companies. How is that a subsidy ?

PS>  You spell this is how you spell foreign and this is how you spell subjugation   

[luckytxn 2,264]

On 11/8/2019 at 10:32 PM, 90DayFinancier said:

I agree with you on the oil reserves, there more out there if you don't care about the environmental impact.

I disagree with the leveling power of subsidies. What you are not counting is the tax preferences provided to oil and gas. 37 billion in I investment is supported by 88 billion in federal, state and local subsidies. On top of that you have the cost of subjectcation if personal property rights to mineral rights in some states.   And then there is foriegn oil extraction: America troops defending foriegn oil wells, infrastructure and transportation and of course the blood shed defending these tyrants who do not respect Western values. 

 

If you can show me the costs of defending windmills, solar and damns as outweighing the carbon cost, I will amend my opinion.

You won't regardless. Oil industry is not subsidized and green tech is. Oil depletion allowance? Yes. Subsidized? No. Green tech can't compete even with subsidies yet alone without. Should we look for alternatives? Yes but not governments job except to put their finger in and get their pay to play. The problems with green tech is not being addressed and until they address it adequately oil and gas is the way to go. Everything else is just a fraud and looks like you buy into it hook line and sinker. Nothing wrong with that but it means you are like every other sheep out there and follow the easily led crowd.

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9 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

The gumbement makes way more per gallon of gas than the oil companies. How is that a subsidy ?

PS>  You spell this is how you spell foreign and this is how you spell subjugation   

I am going to run my posts by you my personal spell grammar check.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

And back on topic...

 

https://www.educationviews.org/landfill-begins-burying-non-recyclable-wind-turbine-blades

 

 

[Dashinka 24,172]

1 hour ago, ALFKAD said:

And back on topic...

 

https://www.educationviews.org/landfill-begins-burying-non-recyclable-wind-turbine-blades

 

 

You’d think they could find some space in CA to bury these things.