Mom denied a tourist visa, I'm in CR1 process HELP

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Wanted to post to say that Boiler clarified some details about the thread I referred ealier. I'm on my cellphone so my ability to look at previous threads for details is limited. Referred to that thread from memory (which is slowly fading 😉).

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1 minute ago, Juliet57 said:

Thank you  of course I remember you from our fellow March 2019 filers thread. Hang in there, the grass is always greener. I could've waited a few more months to be approved if I could have my mom's visa approved.

Only my husband lives in the US. I guess next time we can try that, but honestly I think we're gonna have to wait a few months, or years.

Thank you. Yes, waiting patiently here. Lurking here everyday. lol 

 

I think she can re-apply after several months. But it would be great if you guys can come together.  Keep the faith.

[Boiler 44,869]

She can reapply as soon as she wants.

[Juliet57 304]

Just now, Boiler said:

She can reapply as soon as she wants.

Thanks. We are in no hurry for her to visit because I don't even live there yet, we just wanted to get her visa to have one less thing to worry about and she could visit later on. 

So I'll help her apply again in a few months.

[geowrian 22,337]

1 hour ago, Tsh said:

Do you have other family members in the US? I suggest they make a letter that they will tour your mom there for a vacation, itinerary, and that she will stay there etc.

That letter has no impact on their eligibility for the visa. They need a reason to return home, not a reason to want to visit. From the DOS directly: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/tourism-visit/visitor.html

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Note: Visa applicants must qualify on the basis of the applicant's residence and ties abroad, rather than assurances from U.S. family and friends. A letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support is not needed to apply for a visitor visa. If you choose to bring a letter of invitation or Affidavit of Support to your interview, please remember it is not one of the factors used in determining whether to issue or deny the visa.

 

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5 hours ago, Boiler said:

Anpther post from this morning is where a mother is leaving a 11 year old child behind, you may be surprised, or not, what people will do.

What post was that?

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

8 hours ago, Nat&Amy said:

That is why it bothers me when people show up on Visajourney with stories of "got here on a visitor Visa and decided to stay". When so many misuse a temporary visa, everyone suffers, including those who have always followed the rules. Sadly, to fight this trend, instead of fixing the loopholes that allow temporary visas to be abused so badly, Immigration can simply deny people from countries with a bad track record. Unfortunate. I wish you and your mom luck, hopefully at some point you both will be able to spend time together in the US.

100% agree, we can all thank those who manipulate the system for making it much harder for those that don’t have ill intent.. 

Edited October 29, 2019 by Duke & Marie

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7 hours ago, geowrian said:

That letter has no impact on their eligibility for the visa. They need a reason to return home, not a reason to want to visit. From the DOS directly: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/tourism-visit/visitor.html

 

Well with my parents’ case those were really the reason, two seniors who wanted to visit the son for vacation. And right, the letter was only brought during interview. they did not stay there by the way. Sorry if you guys thought my message was misleading. The admin can just delete it if they like. No worries.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

4 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

What post was that?

This one (note how it’s phrased that the mom “has to” leave her own kids behind to go look after the grandchild...)

 

10 hours ago, IR5momandme said:

I agree with you...my mom has been denied twice for getting a tourist visa. two years in a row!

She does not want to live in the US, but she also does not want to miss the opportunity to be with her grand daughter (my daughter).

So after a long conversation, I apply for her IR5 (immigrant visa) to come to the United States and start her whole new life here. She has to leave my brothers (11 and 19 years old), a house, friends and family. Regardless, it will be different case if she just get her tourist visa instead of immigrant visa. We all have things to consider...unfortunately, there are price to pay

 

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8 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

This one (note how it’s phrased that the mom “has to” leave her own kids behind to go look after the grandchild...)

 

 

what is wrong with that? oh I know...does not fit your mindset. Got it.

 

Edited October 29, 2019 by IR5momandme

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2 hours ago, IR5momandme said:

what is wrong with that? oh I know...does not fit your mindset. Got it.

 

You’re right! leaving my own minor 11 year old child behind to look after someone else’s child does not fit my mindset.  

But the actual point was your phrasing of “had to”, no-one is being forced to do anything here - it is all your choice of what to do.  You could equally say you “have to” return to your home country to keep the extended family in one place. Your choice, nothing forced.

Edited October 29, 2019 by SusieQQQ

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12 hours ago, Duke & Marie said:

100% agree, we can all thank those who manipulate the system for making it much harder for those that don’t have ill intent.. 

Maybe it would be better to deny adjustment of status to those who entered on a visitor visa? Although not sure immigrants would ever come forward if they know they'd be denied. 

 

To all: 

I am still super bummed about my mom but we can't lose hope. I'll help her apply again in a few months and will reach out to some local people who know about tourist visas etc maybe they'll have some advice. If it all fails maybe I can apply for my mom's immigrant visa in a few years, if that's what she wants. Honestly this isn't our first option but might be the only one. 

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22 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

While you may not want to hear it, it's the truth.  Immigrating to the US means separation from the people you leave behind.  Many immigrants have family that can never qualify for a visitor visa.  That is just the sad truth.  Remember that no one is entitled to a visitor visa.  It's a privilege granted to some and not others.  

While you're right saying nobody is entitled to a visitor visa, I think it's sad if people cannot visit their family due to a presumption of guilt. 

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19 minutes ago, jeaniecz said:

While you're right saying nobody is entitled to a visitor visa, I think it's sad if people cannot visit their family due to a presumption of guilt. 

I agree that it's sad, but that's the reality of life.
 

40% of the undocumented immigrants in the US came in with inspection.  That's over 5,000,000 people.  2019 is the 7th year in a row where the number of visa overstays was higher than the number of illegal border crossers.  Visa overstys is the number one source of undocumented immigrants.

 

I have plenty of relatives who if given visitor visas would come here and never leave.  That's the reality of life.  My family is no better than anyone's else family.  The reality is that many people are willing to live in the US undocumented.  

 

What would you propose?  No presumption of immigrant intent and let everyone who wants to visit in?  What would that do to the number of visa overstays?

Edited October 29, 2019 by aaron2020

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3 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

40% of the undocumented immigrants in the US came in with inspection.  That's over 5,000,000 people.  

 

What would you propose?  No presumption of immigrant intent and let everyone who wants to visit in?  

 

I have plenty of relatives who if given visitor visas would come here and never leave.  That's the reality of life.  My family is no better than anyone's else family.  The reality is that many people are willing to live in the US undocumented.  

I'm not proposing anything. 

Only shared my opinion and you don't need to agree.