25,000 Evangelical Christian Youth rally against promiscuity and corporate culture

[gimygirl 0]

The unimagined vastness of creation is much deeper and richer than simply what is described in a particular holy people or piece of scripture.

Scripture was describing the earth as being round loooooooong before any scientist figured it out. There are other facts about the universe/earth in the Bible that were written before scientists "discovered" them. Just more reasons why I believe the Bible to be the Word of God. He's never been wrong.

usually such 'factual' statements are followed by proof ... unfortunately for you, your only proof is a man-made bible. this is where your argument falls apart as you cannot use the bible as proof for the earth's length of existence.

[Sister Fracas 5]

ya see....Christians don't even agree on the particulars....so it's not a stretch to accept that non-believers of Christianity will never agree with Christians...

*laughs at the instigator*

whaaa...I'm not instigating...it's just a fact... Let's chill everyone...it's Friday!! Peace be with you all...

Anyway, TracyTN is the "Instigator of the Post"

[gimygirl 0]

ya see....Christians don't even agree on the particulars....so it's not a stretch to accept that non-believers of Christianity will never agree with Christians...

bravo!! religious followers can almost prove their is no god by their actions and contradictions alone!

and it IS friday!! woot! my day off for the week! let's get this party started!!

Edited June 9, 2006 by gimygirl

[almaty 19]

The unimagined vastness of creation is much deeper and richer than simply what is described in a particular holy people or piece of scripture.

Scripture was describing the earth as being round loooooooong before any scientist figured it out. There are other facts about the universe/earth in the Bible that were written before scientists "discovered" them. Just more reasons why I believe the Bible to be the Word of God. He's never been wrong.

really, so god told the hebrews to slaughter women and children when they went into the promise land...and punished david for not obeying the same directive.,..

Edited June 9, 2006 by almaty2004

[mercuryroad 0]

The unimagined vastness of creation is much deeper and richer than simply what is described in a particular holy people or piece of scripture.

Scripture was describing the earth as being round loooooooong before any scientist figured it out. There are other facts about the universe/earth in the Bible that were written before scientists "discovered" them. Just more reasons why I believe the Bible to be the Word of God. He's never been wrong.

really, so god told the hebrews to slaughter women and children when they went into the promise land...and punished david for not obeying the same directive.,..

brother dean, you'll have to ignore the arrogance. It's just another reaffirmation that many Christians need to feel they are right about everything. It's a self serving ego trip for certain people to claim devine perfection when they themselves are not. God's word is also used as a justification for those actions instead of taking personal responsibility for their own interpretation and actions that result.

[gimygirl 0]

case in point from something that just happened 4 days ago:

KIEV (Reuters) - A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lioness in Kiev zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure, a zoo official said on Monday.

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"The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.

"A lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery."

(source)

[incanada1234 0]

brother dean, you'll have to ignore the arrogance. It's just another reaffirmation that many Christians need to feel they are right about everything. It's a self serving ego trip for certain people to claim devine perfection when they themselves are not. God's word is also used as a justification for those actions instead of taking personal responsibility for their own interpretation and actions that result.

You know, I find it ever-so-strange that you claim to be a Christian, yet I haven't read one positive post ABOUT Christians or Christianity from you yet. Interesting...

case in point from something that just happened 4 days ago:

KIEV (Reuters) - A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lioness in Kiev zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure, a zoo official said on Monday.

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"The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.

"A lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery."

(source)

I would have laughed so hard if I saw that!

[chri'stina 190]

case in point from something that just happened 4 days ago:

KIEV (Reuters) - A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lioness in Kiev zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure, a zoo official said on Monday.

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"The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.

"A lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery."

(source)

But there are others stories that would say the opposite...that news story doesn't have a lot to do with God existing. Even if we want to say God in a way that would encompass many different religions...there are so many billions on this planet who believe in a God or supernatural being like God, and a small minority of ppl who do not believe in God. Why is it in almost every culture in the world, you go back to their roots and each believed in a higher power. FOr me there are 2 conclusions: Either they were all brainwashed in their early days of existence to believe in the supernatural; or a higher supernatural being does exist due to the sheer volumes of people and cultures that have always believed in a higher power, independently of each other.

Obviously you believe there is no God, but billions on this planet do believe in God or a God, etc. I don't think you can prove there is no God, just like you say ppl cannot prove that there is a God.

Edited June 9, 2006 by stina&suj

[incanada1234 0]

If Hillary Clinton runs for office and loses in '08 - there IS a God!

[mercuryroad 0]

You know, I find it ever-so-strange that you claim to be a Christian, yet I haven't read one positive post ABOUT Christians or Christianity from you yet. Interesting...

Kind of goes with my point don't you think? My spirituality and belief in God is my personal decision and choice. Nobody has asked me what God means in my life. The reason for my posts is to counteract the arrogant people that call themselves Christians and don't act like it. Those kinds of attitudes have diluted the word and have directly led to the backlash we receive. Frankly, I'm tired of it.

You may see that as a negative comment, but it is not a comment about Chritianity or God's word. God's word to me is pure....it's the imperfect followers that think they can speak in his name that inspired all of my comments. My comments have been about the people, not God Himself.

My discussing what my perception of what is wrong with Christian followers today is positive. I care enough to want things to change.

[gimygirl 0]

case in point from something that just happened 4 days ago:

KIEV (Reuters) - A man shouting that God would keep him safe was mauled to death by a lioness in Kiev zoo after he crept into the animal's enclosure, a zoo official said on Monday.

ADVERTISEMENT

"The man shouted 'God will save me, if he exists', lowered himself by a rope into the enclosure, took his shoes off and went up to the lions," the official said.

"A lioness went straight for him, knocked him down and severed his carotid artery."

(source)

I would have laughed so hard if I saw that!

leave it to a christian girl like you to laugh at the tragic ending of a human beings life.

[incanada1234 0]

leave it to a christian girl like you to laugh at the tragic ending of a human beings life.

I would expect no sympathy if I had done the same as him.

[chri'stina 190]

You know, I find it ever-so-strange that you claim to be a Christian, yet I haven't read one positive post ABOUT Christians or Christianity from you yet. Interesting...

My comments have been about the people, not God Himself.

My discussing what my perception of what is wrong with Christian followers today is positive. I care enough to want things to change.

I know what you are saying, but still I think it could be gone about a better way. Like encouraging fellow Christians to change, not belittling. In the bible is says to speak correction in love if you have a problem with someone. That applies to everyone, including fellow Christians, even though it can be hard to do at times. Ppl won't respond to hearing harsh things, as seen in this thread. (not meaning just written by you, I mean by ppl who are just plain rude when they write stuff)

I also think the word has gotten watered down in other ways too, but by Christians doing or saying things that are not acceptable to do according to the N.T. It's a compromised church that's out there too. I think there are more compromised Christians than fire and brimstone Christians. Just my opinion.

Edited June 9, 2006 by stina&suj

[Sister Fracas 5]

leave it to a christian girl like you to laugh at the tragic ending of a human beings life.

Can I just suggest a rephrashing... "leave it to you to laugh at the tragic ending of a human beings life" because I don't think approveme/fourmoreyears/incanada's faith has anything to do with the comments she makes. I would not imagine I'd read something like that from 99% of the rest of the Christians on VJ.

Just my opinion...

[gimygirl 0]

Obviously you believe there is no God, but billions on this planet do believe in God or a God, etc. I don't think you can prove there is no God, just like you say ppl cannot prove that there is a God.

it's actually not up to me to prove something doesn't exist! you have the burden of proof, it's up to the believers that something DOES exist. there is no empirical data to prove a god's existence, santa's or superman's, for that matter, ergo i do not have to prove anything!

you are right that there are billions of people on this planet that do in god (or a god) ... was it just sheer coincidence that you picked the right one?? interestingly enough, you met a man that believed in a certain god, yet was able to push that aside and embrace your god ... therefore proving his 'old' god does not really exist. same goes for women and men that leave christianity and convert to islam.