im so depressed

[Alex+R 0]

i wasnt judging her, i was judging people that felt that way about getting knocked up and killing the outcome. my opinion.

Ok now, to be fair, you did say that it makes you sick that people like me exist, or something.

:waves to Ewok:

This thread went nuts, huh?

[peezey 0]

I take all the precautions I can not to get pregnant, but if I did, I would not bring an unwanted child into the world when there is no need.

But is killing the unwanted child better? There are soooo soooo many people who are on HUGE waiting lists to adopt a child. Why kill it when you can enhance both the child's life and the adoptive parent's life?

There are sooooo many unwanted kids out there that never get adopted.

I take all the precautions I can not to get pregnant, but if I did, I would not bring an unwanted child into the world when there is no need.

But is killing the unwanted child better? There are soooo soooo many people who are on HUGE waiting lists to adopt a child. Why kill it when you can enhance both the child's life and the adoptive parent's life?

Because I don't see it as killing (this is not a point worth arguing about, let me just say now), I definitely can't do my master's program pregnant and so I'd have to sacrifice that, because it's my body and I don't want it hijacked by a fetus, and because I am a very maternal person (look at me and my pets for chrissakes) and there's no way I could look at a baby I had and give it up for adoption. I know that about myself, so I'm not about to put myself in that position. Each element of a decision like that is very personal.

I agree totally, with everything you said, as usual.

[Sinergy 3]

Id say this is way outta line. Im sure you wouldnt have done it any different , and its not like she left her kid, she just went to another place for a very short time and returned to her son. big deal. you dont get out much do you, ppl do it all the time

from peezey

Leaving your kids after they are already born to go live with a foreigner in a foreign country is abortion, it's just later on.

Edited June 7, 2007 by Ionescu

[Alex+R 0]

I take all the precautions I can not to get pregnant, but if I did, I would not bring an unwanted child into the world when there is no need.

But is killing the unwanted child better? There are soooo soooo many people who are on HUGE waiting lists to adopt a child. Why kill it when you can enhance both the child's life and the adoptive parent's life?

There are sooooo many unwanted kids out there that never get adopted.

Yes, there are couples waiting a very long time for the white baby they want. There are so many black 3 year olds that need moms and dads too.

[Sinergy 3]

this thread needs locked

[peezey 0]

I dont really think an abortion is an option here. Shes expressed how much she loves him and how she does seem to want this baby. And no one wants to get an abortion with the man they love.

No one? You don't get out much. People get abortions all the time, love has nothing to do with it. It's an option for several more weeks now.

I dont get out much? So the next time i go to the movies with my kids i should ask everyone in the theater who had an abortion this week?

geez

and i didnt say no one HAS one with the man they love, i sd no one WANTS to. and if you read correctly next time, and understand my post, youd see i was speaking about abortion and love in one. so your comment had nothing to do with mine

obviously there are people who want an abortion if they get pregnant no matter if it's with someone they love or not. My comment has everything to do with your assertion that you know how all women feel on the matter.

Id say this is way outta line. Im sure you wouldnt have done it any different , and its not like she left her kid, she just went to another place for a very short time and returned to her son. big deal. you dont get out much do you, ppl do it all the time

from peezey

Leaving your kids after they are already born to go live with a foreigner in a foreign country is abortion, it's just later on.

You're kidding, right? She's leaving to go live with him ASAP and can't stop whining about the separation. She will be leaving her kid full time as soon as she gets her visa.

[Sinergy 3]

I dont really think an abortion is an option here. Shes expressed how much she loves him and how she does seem to want this baby. And no one wants to get an abortion with the man they love.

No one? You don't get out much. People get abortions all the time, love has nothing to do with it. It's an option for several more weeks now.

I dont get out much? So the next time i go to the movies with my kids i should ask everyone in the theater who had an abortion this week?

geez

and i didnt say no one HAS one with the man they love, i sd no one WANTS to. and if you read correctly next time, and understand my post, youd see i was speaking about abortion and love in one. so your comment had nothing to do with mine

obviously there are people who want an abortion if they get pregnant no matter if it's with someone they love or not. My comment has everything to do with your assertion that you know how all women feel on the matter.

Id say this is way outta line. Im sure you wouldnt have done it any different , and its not like she left her kid, she just went to another place for a very short time and returned to her son. big deal. you dont get out much do you, ppl do it all the time

from peezey

Leaving your kids after they are already born to go live with a foreigner in a foreign country is abortion, it's just later on.

You're kidding, right? She's leaving to go live with him ASAP and can't stop whining about the separation. She will be leaving her kid full time as soon as she gets her visa.

Ok leaving her son full time is one thing, leaving for a month is another.

I left my daughter at my moms for 1 month while i was in romania getting things setteled. apartment, job set and her school, so yea i got defensive bc i didnt think it was unmotherly to do what i did.

and i didnt assume i know how ALL women feel, i was just making a statement.

Edited June 7, 2007 by Ionescu

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

All: Please stop judging other members or making them feel bad. Please try to show the respect that you would want given to yourself.

[doc_cute 0]

and also i want to ask question from u guys again..its about her ex girlfriend..should i be insecure being them as bestfriends? when i knew my husband and we started as friends she is still with her ex gf and then few months later they broke up and and it became me and him.before we got married and still in my country my husband has always been so honest to me that when he talks to his ex gf or sees her,he always makes it a point to ask permission to me or let me know if he is talking to her.last monday ,my husband lied to me. he told me that he is going to worlk cos his boss called him up to have oever time but then i found out that he didnt worked and when i told him that i knew already that he didnt go to work he admitted to went to see hes cousin first and then went to the house of her ex girlfriend to have someone to talk with.we were fighting and what hurst me most is lying to me. his ex girlfriend is really a big issue to me,he never hide about his ex gf and always tells me that what he feels for her ex is just a sister and a bestfriend.it came to a point that day that i asked him to choose between me and our baby or his ex gf and he just answered me that he will not choose anything cos if i love him i wouldnt asked him to choose? im i wrong to do this? should i be jelous to his ex gf?cos i feel like her feelings is more important to him than my feelings. on that day when he sees her..he just admiited to her that he just got married and gonna be a father soon. like the girl knows already about me but she didnt know before that i am married to him. and i was thinkinng why it took him so long to tell her everything about us being married..thats also a big stress out to me cos i really feel he is so afraid to hurt her feelings but then he dont think that he is hurting my feelings evertime they talk on the phone in front of me and never mention my name to her unlike the when he talks to his other friends and cousins..he can always insert my name during their conversations.my life now is really confused...and why these things needs to happen to us.

tiki what i feel is u should really be very hard n strong

if u r not much months preg u should rather get it aborted n revive your relation

common its your life

why will u leave the country for a third girl comming in between u two girls

u have to revive your relation

n u have to be strong

1st of all u need to get child aborted if its not too late

[almaty 19]

this thread needs to be monitored closely....the subject matter, is an issue, that has been discussed and debated in our courts and within congress..it is a highly emotionally charged issue ...

[Sinergy 3]

why is everyone advicing this poor girl to get an abortion??? She hasnt even spoken to her husband yet! she didnt ask for advice on keeping her baby or not, just what should she do about her hubby!!

[Alex+R 0]

why is everyone advicing this poor girl to get an abortion??? She hasnt even spoken to her husband yet! she didnt ask for advice on keeping her baby or not, just what should she do about her hubby!!

I have only seen one person counsel her to get an abortion.

[Sinergy 3]

why is everyone advicing this poor girl to get an abortion??? She hasnt even spoken to her husband yet! she didnt ask for advice on keeping her baby or not, just what should she do about her hubby!!

I have only seen one person counsel her to get an abortion.

Ok why is everyone talking about abortion She hasnt even spoken to her husband yet! she didnt ask for advice on keeping her baby or not, just what should she do about her hubby!!

[poppscc 0]

It's relatively easier on the concience to kill an unknown and underdeveloped baby that it is to kill an older baby/child. Abortion is killing of a child.

Day 20: Foundations of the brain, spinal cord and nervous system are already established.

Day 21: The heart begins to beat.

Day 28: The backbone and muscles are forming. Arms, legs, eyes and ears have begun to show.

Day 30: The heart is pumping increasing quantities of blood through the circulatory system.

Day 35: Five fingers can be discerned in the hand. The eyes darken as pigment is produced.

Day 40: Brain waves can be detected and recorded.

Day 42: The liver is now taking over the production of blood cells and the brain begins to control movement of muscles and organs.

Week 7: The embryo begins to move spontaneously. The jaw forms, including teeth buds in the gums.

[Sinergy 3]

Ok theres just too much abortion talk for me, im going home, see you guys tomorrow *waves night night*