Embassy asking for evidence we dont have

[Jean1967 2]

Hello

Please I'm writing this to see if there's people who are in same boat .my husband passed his interview and they requested from him chats back to 2012 and we sent all we could find . But they insisting about 2012 chats.  But we lost them . It is impossible to give them something we don't have 

Thank you

Visa:ir1

Country: Morocco 

Edited October 11, 2019 by Jean1967

[Cheridane123 122]

9 hours ago, Jean1967 said:

Hello

Please I'm writing this to see if there's people who are in same boat .my husband passed his interview and they requested from him chats back to 2012 and we sent all we could find . But they insisting about 2012 chats.  But we lost them . It is impossible to give them something we don't have 

Thank you

Visa:ir1

Country: Morocco 

If you guys were friend on 2012 on facebook, there is a way to retrieve it . They ask my husband facebook chat before 2014 , we don't have it because we start being friend on 2014.  I am just gonna write a letter an explain to them with some screenshot as a evidence. Good luck 

[JeanneAdil 6,498]

This is the newest tactic Casa is using to not issue visas

If you met in 2012 there should have been a few chats included in the application to prove that as you can not count to a computer not to crash

If you said that is when you met online,  you need to prove it

Unfortunately this is happening to more than just you 

Another was asked for chats from 2013

Only thing i can guess at is they believe the timeline is made up and the 2 people had a short relationship before marriage 

Did you provide any 2012 chats with the application?

Did you provide any boarding passes,  hotel receipts,  or plane itinerary to show you met before the 2015 marriage?

Can you get into facebook and retrieve the old chats?

Do you have any emails from this time?

Did you send any 123 greeting card messages (free to do) during this time?

I had 123 greeting cards,   emails.  chat logs, phone call bill from a land line, receipts of packages sent to Morocco and from Morocco

You can not depend on one site to keep your information or a computer or cell phone to last the long time it takes to get a visa from Morocco

[Jean1967 2]

3 hours ago, Cheridane123 said:

If you guys were friend on 2012 on facebook, there is a way to retrieve it . They ask my husband facebook chat before 2014 , we don't have it because we start being friend on 2014.  I am just gonna write a letter an explain to them with some screenshot as a evidence. Good luck 

I'm same thing 

[Cheridane123 122]

27 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

This is the newest tactic Casa is using to not issue visas

If you met in 2012 there should have been a few chats included in the application to prove that as you can not count to a computer not to crash

If you said that is when you met online,  you need to prove it

Unfortunately this is happening to more than just you 

Another was asked for chats from 2013

Only thing i can guess at is they believe the timeline is made up and the 2 people had a short relationship before marriage 

Did you provide any 2012 chats with the application?

Did you provide any boarding passes,  hotel receipts,  or plane itinerary to show you met before the 2015 marriage?

Can you get into facebook and retrieve the old chats?

Do you have any emails from this time?

Did you send any 123 greeting card messages (free to do) during this time?

I had 123 greeting cards,   emails.  chat logs, phone call bill from a land line, receipts of packages sent to Morocco and from Morocco

You can not depend on one site to keep your information or a computer or cell phone to last the long time it takes to get a visa from Morocco

I sent them a lot of prouve,  chat log since 2014 with conversation abt when our girl was born , picture,s foto on our messenger chat, 2 months after she was born she had meningitis, we show them all our conversation abt that, boarding pass, picture with family. Beside of asking us more chat log they ask for DNA also. I can't wait for this to be over 

[Cheridane123 122]

14 hours ago, Jean1967 said:

Hello

Please I'm writing this to see if there's people who are in same boat .my husband passed his interview and they requested from him chats back to 2012 and we sent all we could find . But they insisting about 2012 chats.  But we lost them . It is impossible to give them something we don't have 

Thank you

Visa:ir1

Country: Morocco 

Just take screenshot on your facebook that shows when you guys became friend on facebook , to prove them that you can't have what they are asking for , and attach that a letter explaining step by step why u don't have it. Good luck 

[JeanneAdil 6,498]

47 minutes ago, Cheridane123 said:

I sent them a lot of prouve,  chat log since 2014 with conversation abt when our girl was born , picture,s foto on our messenger chat, 2 months after she was born she had meningitis, we show them all our conversation abt that, boarding pass, picture with family. Beside of asking us more chat log they ask for DNA also. I can't wait for this to be over 

but you must have put in your application you met online in 2012

if you sent 2014 and married in 2015, that is all you proved 

The embassy is getting tighter on this kind of proof

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

6 hours ago, Cheridane123 said:

Beside of asking us more chat log they ask for DNA also. 

DNA? Of the child? 😳 wow a little rude, especially if your on the birth certificate

[Cheridane123 122]

1 hour ago, Duke & Marie said:

DNA? Of the child? 😳 wow a little rude, especially if your on the birth certificate

Yeahhh DNA on 2 of my children, and it's really expensive.  $810 for each 

[JeanneAdil 6,498]

to restore delted facebook chats:

 

in folder of com.facebook.orca choose "cache" then open "fb_temp"

 

15 hours ago, Cheridane123 said:

Yeahhh DNA on 2 of my children, and it's really expensive.  $810 for each 

If you are the USC ,  go on the Maury show for free DNA 

[Cheridane123 122]

14 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

to restore delted facebook chats:

 

in folder of com.facebook.orca choose "cache" then open "fb_temp"

 

If you are the USC ,  go on the Maury show for free DNA 

Immigration have their own labo, you can't do it anywhere . Anyway I did it already, the whole process may take 8 weeks. Fingers crossed 

[Unlockable 7,314]

20 hours ago, Duke & Marie said:

DNA? Of the child? 😳 wow a little rude, especially if your on the birth certificate

Not rude at all.

 

And it is getting requested more often. There are many cases of the father not being the bio parent. Even if the parents are married and his name is on the birth certificate. As somebody who has witnessed, first hand ,from a family member and a couple of friends them finding out they are not the father, requesting a DNA test is not insulting.

 

A few years ago a member came on board who was petitioning his wife and 4 kids. The counselor requested DNA test on all kids. Turned out the 2 youngest kids were not his. 

[Duke & Marie 1,389]

3 hours ago, Unlockable said:

Not rude at all.

 

And it is getting requested more often. There are many cases of the father not being the bio parent. Even if the parents are married and his name is on the birth certificate. As somebody who has witnessed, first hand ,from a family member and a couple of friends them finding out they are not the father, requesting a DNA test is not insulting.

 

A few years ago a member came on board who was petitioning his wife and 4 kids. The counselor requested DNA test on all kids. Turned out the 2 youngest kids were not his. 

I guess not, when you look at it from that aspect, but still, personally I’d be somewhat insulted and offended at someone insinuating that I slept around... but that’s  me sorry

Edited October 12, 2019 by Duke & Marie

[JeanneAdil 6,498]

6 minutes ago, Duke & Marie said:

I guess not, when you look at it from that aspect, but still, personally I’d be somewhat insulted and offended at someone insinuating that I slept around... but that’s  me sorry

The reason being is not sleeping around but some try to bring a niece or nephew saying they are their own children 

especially in the poor high fraud countries

[Unlockable 7,314]

1 hour ago, Duke & Marie said:

I guess not, when you look at it from that aspect, but still, personally I’d be somewhat insulted and offended at someone insinuating that I slept around... but that’s  me sorry

It isn't always about "sleeping around". Like @Jeanne Adil pointed out, some times people try to pass off other people's children as their own. And we have even seen threads on VJ about that also. In some countries, some people would give a family member or close friend their minor child so they could come to the US for a chance at a better life. Yes it is fraudulent, but when they are in a desperate situation, they believe what they are doing is not wrong.

 

You may be taking it too personal. It is like getting offended when you have to get checked for weapons at the airport. It sucks but it is something they do so they can be close to 100% sure. US immigration gets millions and millions of cases. They have seen it all. Some steps have been put into place as a "just to be sure" measure. Asking for DNA is one of them.

 

I've been on this board for 5+ years. After seeing some of the fraudulent activity that past members on VisaJourney admitted to doing, I am no longer surprised that a counselor would take more steps to be sure of certain things.