AP Fact Check: Trump's fact-challenged week over impeachment

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9 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Interesting...

 

BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi’s Son Was Exec At Gas Company That Did Business In Ukraine

 

https://nationalfile.com/breaking-nancy-pelosis-son-was-exec-at-gas-company-that-did-business-in-ukraine/

 

 

This guy thinks electricity is a natural resource?

 

“My name’s Paul Pelosi. Of course I’m on the board of Viscoil. And Viscoil is here today to talk about accelerating the future. It’s about using cars in a more efficient manner. It’s about utilizing natural resources, whether it be electricity, or gas, or fossil fuels in a more efficient way. And Viscoil is a part of that solution,” Paul Pelosi Jr. said in the video.

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22 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   Well I think what you are trying to say, maybe a bit too strongly, is that no one really cares about the honesty and integrity of politicians anymore. In a sense it's become expected and tolerated and people just move past it and focus on other things and other issues. Partisanship is also a bigger factor now than ever. People just want their guy to win at all costs. I don't think that's a good thing, especially in a two party system, but I am OK with people being straight forward about their motivations.

 

   I'll be honest too. I didn't like Trump. I didn't like Clinton. I didn't vote for either. I couldn't. I understood one of them would win because that's the system we have, however in my opinion, neither party deserves it. If people actually had more than the illusion of choice, they would have all been out on their rear ends a long time ago.  

 

  

i agree with your PoV. a bit similar to your position but slight differences. 

 

though here you can see how partisanship works, and it does validate what i mentioned early on 

 

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"Why am i supporting this liar? Why do i tolerate all the lies he made?" instead of "Hey It's the DEMS, they started it!! They did it first!"

 

the responses here (majority) have always been "but but but the DEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!" (see all the links and posts made by the supporters of that well known liar? heh) and little about "Why am i supporting this well known liar and his lies?"

Edited October 7, 2019 by abum

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6 minutes ago, abum said:

i agree with your PoV. a bit similar to your position but slight differences. 

 

though here you can see how partisanship works, and it does validate what i mentioned early on 

 

 

the responses here (majority) have always been "but but but the DEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!" (see all the links and posts made by the supporters of that well known liar? heh) and little about "Why am i supporting this well known liar and his lies?"

You're new here, so your myopia is understandable.

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Just now, ALFKAD said:

You're new here, so your myopia is understandable.

doesn't nullify the observation that everyone can see blatantly

"but but but the DEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

and never about "man why am i still blindly support lies upon lies upon lies made by this fraud? is this the values and behavior i want the future generation to emulate?"

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1 minute ago, abum said:

doesn't nullify the observation that everyone can see blatantly

"but but but the DEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

and never about "man why am i still blindly support lies upon lies upon lies made by this fraud? is this the values and behavior i want the future generation to emulate?"

Did you support Obama?

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9 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Did you support Obama?

if i have to choose between Trump and Obama (clearly both got elected as the US President), it would be Obama on so many levels BUT i wont blindly support every single thing he does (he did a lot of things i disagreed with, on Middle East issues for example, and especially if he is caught lying blatantly like the way Trump gets caught now) and finding ways to justify his actions ("but but but the DEMS!!)". 

 

 

funny that some held high standard for others (Obama/Dems/Lib) but not on "dear leader" 

"man why am i still blindly supporting lies upon lies upon lies made by this fraud? is this the values and behavior i want the future generation to emulate?"

Edited October 7, 2019 by abum

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1 minute ago, abum said:

and especially if he is caught lying blatantly like the way Trump gets caught now)

Obama Gets PolitiFact's 'Lie Of The Year' Prize For Healthcare Claims

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-gets-politifacts-lie-of-the-year-prize-for-healthcare-claims_n_5b57eabae4b004fe162fda33

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4 minutes ago, abum said:

if i have to choose between Trump and Obama (clearly both got elected as the US President), it would be Obama on so many levels BUT i wont blindly support every single thing he does (he did a lot of things i disagreed with, on Middle East issues for example, and especially if he is caught lying blatantly like the way Trump gets caught now) and finding ways to justify his actions ("but but but the DEMS!!)". 

 

 

funny that some held high standard for others (Obama/Dems/Lib) but not on "dear leader" 

"man why am i still blindly supporting lies upon lies upon lies made by this fraud? is this the values and behavior i want the future generation to emulate?"

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/politifact

PolitiFact media bias rating is Lean Left.

 

"PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets 'fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups...'" - Wikipedia.

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Obama tells Russia's Medvedev more flexibility after election

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nuclear-summit-obama-medvedev/obama-tells-russias-medvedev-more-flexibility-after-election-idUSBRE82P0JI20120326

 

Certainly sounds like a liar to me.......

Edited October 7, 2019 by missileman

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9 minutes ago, abum said:

if i have to choose between Trump and Obama (clearly both got elected as the US President), it would be Obama on so many levels BUT i wont blindly support every single thing he does (he did a lot of things i disagreed with, on Middle East issues for example, and especially if he is caught lying blatantly like the way Trump gets caught now) and finding ways to justify his actions ("but but but the DEMS!!)". 

 

 

 

funny that some held high standard for others (Obama/Dems/Lib) but not on "dear leader" 

"man why am i still blindly supporting lies upon lies upon lies made by this fraud? is this the values and behavior i want the future generation to emulate?"

You DO realize that Obama lied quite a lot too, right?

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2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/politifact

PolitiFact media bias rating is Lean Left.

 

"PolitiFact.com is a project operated by the Tampa Bay Times, in which reporters and editors from the Times and affiliated media outlets 'fact-check statements by members of Congress, the White House, lobbyists and interest groups...'" - Wikipedia.

 

would that be an issue? fact is fact, unless you can bring evidence to dispute what they said, or as what liars would say `~ bring "Alternative Facts", you know, like Kellyanne something something had said. 

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19 minutes ago, abum said:

doesn't nullify the observation that everyone can see blatantly

"but but but the DEMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

 

and never about "man why am i still blindly support lies upon lies upon lies made by this fraud? is this the values and behavior i want the future generation to emulate?"

You don't look at yourself in the mirror?

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6 minutes ago, missileman said:

Obama Gets PolitiFact's 'Lie Of The Year' Prize For Healthcare Claims

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/obama-gets-politifacts-lie-of-the-year-prize-for-healthcare-claims_n_5b57eabae4b004fe162fda33

sure, no one would want to back that up if he lied. Unlike what supporter of a well known liars had been doing, enabling his lies upon lies.

 

Also, please read your comment again, funny that you somehow missed that TRUMP already did the "disgraceful" thing you accused others of.

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1 minute ago, abum said:

 

would that be an issue? fact is fact, unless you can bring evidence to dispute what they said, or as what liars would say `~ bring "Alternative Facts", you know, like Kellyanne something something had said. 

Facts do seem to be ignored by many on the Left as well as their media allies.

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now that you're done with "strawmans" , hoping to resort to "ad-hominem" ?