AP Fact Check: Trump's fact-challenged week over impeachment

[abum 324]

And good point, raise the next generation to show that LIE is okay, but somehow LIE under OATH is actually bad and should be punished. Hurm..

 

"See kids, you cannot take someone's words literally, well, unless that person is under OATH as because if it is taken literally, then it means he is LYING, then  he could be convicted of PERJURY. So take it metaphorically, unless it is under oath, as that means he must tell the TRUTH, no hyperbole, no name calling no deflection, no strawman, because, well, hurm, not sure why someone needs to tell the TRUTH i think, because as an ardent supporter, LIES and LYING are fine with me. I actually think TRUTH doesn't matter,  because because because the DEMS! "

[abum 324]

I can also make unproven statement too (like the one made on this thread but had no evidence to back it up).

 

"All of them STEALS, all of them are CORRUPTED."

 

Still, because i believe the above statements are true, i would support, and vote for the one that got caught STEALING the most, got caught stealing multiple times and is the most corrupted.

 

Very good choice i have made there. Quite simple decision to make right?

 

 

[Crazy Cat 42,160]

In elections, people must sometimes revert to the "Lesser of two evils" philosophy.  No candidate or POTUS is perfect.........but some are considerably better than others.........

[abum 324]

14 hours ago, abum said:

Maybe supporters should ask "Why am i supporting this liar? Why do i tolerate all the lies he made?" instead of "Hey It's the DEMS, they started it!! They did it first!"

Or could this be the checklist of selecting a leader (as it also reflects one's values)?

 

1. one who lies a lot, so select the one with the most lies (and make up more lies to justify the previous ones)

2. one with no integrity

3. likes to bully others

4. childish 
5. one who can grab a woman by .. hurm............

 

 

repeating the same points again. So what values would some want to pass to the next generation? 

[Crazy Cat 42,160]

I value policy over personality........

[abum 324]

https://brightside.me/inspiration-psychology/why-honesty-is-always-the-best-policy-150505/ 
 

 

😂

[Steeleballz 7,550]

33 minutes ago, missileman said:

I value policy over personality........

 

    Thanks. Only took 4 pages, but finally someone gave a straight answer.

[abum 324]

17 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Thanks. Only took 4 pages, but finally someone gave a straight answer.

It is funny and odd at the same time, in this forum, you can see people advising others "Be HONEST, tell the TRUTH" and there are people complaining the do not like cheaters etc,......

 

and yet somehow HONESTY and TRUTH actually carry no meaning and values to them. I guess only when it suits and benefits them, would they resort to being HONEST and telling the TRUTH. 

 

Else, feel free to LIE, especially if you can get away with it and there will definitely be someone to back up those LIEs.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

10 minutes ago, abum said:

It is funny and odd at the same time, in this forum, you can see people advising others "Be HONEST, tell the TRUTH" and there are people complaining the do not like cheaters etc,......

 

and yet somehow HONESTY and TRUTH actually carry no meaning and values to them. I guess only when it suits and benefits them, would they resort to being HONEST and telling the TRUTH. 

 

Else, feel free to LIE, especially if you can get away with it and there will definitely be someone to back up those LIEs.

 

   Well I think what you are trying to say, maybe a bit too strongly, is that no one really cares about the honesty and integrity of politicians anymore. In a sense it's become expected and tolerated and people just move past it and focus on other things and other issues. Partisanship is also a bigger factor now than ever. People just want their guy to win at all costs. I don't think that's a good thing, especially in a two party system, but I am OK with people being straight forward about their motivations.

 

   I'll be honest too. I didn't like Trump. I didn't like Clinton. I didn't vote for either. I couldn't. I understood one of them would win because that's the system we have, however in my opinion, neither party deserves it. If people actually had more than the illusion of choice, they would have all been out on their rear ends a long time ago.  

 

  

Edited October 6, 2019 by Steeleballz

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

we need a fact checker to check the fact checkers.

 

I read CNN web site sometimes.  The headline will be . Trumps big lies during his latest speech

 

Then almost without fail, 9 out of 10 fact checks start like this..

 

1. While factually correct we need to add context  OMG ROFL

[Crazy Cat 42,160]

AOC: Being Morally Right Is More Important Than Being Factually Correct

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2019/01/07/aoc-it-doesnt-matter-if-im-factually-correct-about-things-n2538586

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,378]

1 minute ago, missileman said:

AOC: Being Morally Right Is More Important Than Being Factually Correct

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2019/01/07/aoc-it-doesnt-matter-if-im-factually-correct-about-things-n2538586

thats kind of how I am. I dont need facts to be correct 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

 

   Morality? Heavy dose of rationalization going on here. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, abum said:

 

Read this:

 

 

Then read this:

 

 

EVERYBODY lies.   Even House.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Interesting...

 

BREAKING: Nancy Pelosi’s Son Was Exec At Gas Company That Did Business In Ukraine

 

https://nationalfile.com/breaking-nancy-pelosis-son-was-exec-at-gas-company-that-did-business-in-ukraine/