New Healthcare Requirements for US Immigrants

[foofooabla 43]

How do we prove that they will have health insurance exactly? A little bit confused. 

[90DayFinancier 910]

8 hours ago, wifidolly said:

How do we prove that they will have health insurance exactly? A little bit confused. 

The White House proclamation outlines the types of insurance acceptable and talks about showing the proof of the ability to obtain insurance within 30 days. We will need to wait on the State Department to provide the actual policy and guidance to the interviewer. I doubt this will go into affect Nov 3.

[Jon_G 6]

Hi all,

 

I'm hoping to get interview letter soon (CR1), but looking ahead regarding health insurance issue this is what i'm planning to do.

Hopefully someone has some insight if this is ok.

 

I'm writing a letter in which i'm showing my current health insurance cost vs the cost of adding my spouse to my employer-provided health insurance.

My I-864 financial documents can serve as an additional substantiation that i can afford the added costs.

I've spoken with the health insurance company, and they've confirmed i'm able to add my spouse once she comes into the U.S. as a 'Life Event', regardless of enrollment period

[90DayFinancier 910]

21 minutes ago, Jon_G said:

Hi all,

 

I'm hoping to get interview letter soon (CR1), but looking ahead regarding health insurance issue this is what i'm planning to do.

Hopefully someone has some insight if this is ok.

 

I'm writing a letter in which i'm showing my current health insurance cost vs the cost of adding my spouse to my employer-provided health insurance.

My I-864 financial documents can serve as an additional substantiation that i can afford the added costs.

I've spoken with the health insurance company, and they've confirmed i'm able to add my spouse once she comes into the U.S. as a 'Life Event', regardless of enrollment period

It might be prudent to bring copies, although we need to see the actual guidance from State which is not here.

[jimfleurieee 22]

I just requested a letter from our health benefit center. They will provide me a personalize letter stating that my spouse will be eligible to be added to my health insurance via life event.

[artcodex 28]

I think it's better to be safe then sorry but based on everything I've seen I think they will have delays rolling this out beyond lawsuits that may come up too.

[90DayFinancier 910]

2 hours ago, artcodex said:

I think it's better to be safe then sorry but based on everything I've seen I think they will have delays rolling this out beyond lawsuits that may come up too.

I have not seen a lawsuit yet, but I expect a challenge once the policy drops.

[artcodex 28]

I wouldn't be surprised if rollout is delayed just for procedural reasons too like the dos public charge changes.

[90DayFinancier 910]

11 minutes ago, artcodex said:

I wouldn't be surprised if rollout is delayed just for procedural reasons too like the dos public charge changes.

One of my largest beefs with this administration is how hamhanded they are with this type of change. They seem uninterested or even energized by the disruption and worry the process of these types of changes bring.

They either don't know how to implement policy or they don't care.

 

[TBoneTX 45,287]

Not saying that it's true of this proposal, but some/several "Trump" immigration plans existed already (put through by the Obama administration or previously) and had not been enforced.  Some Federal judge in California or elsewhere can always be counted on to put a stop to just about anything that this administration proposes, whether the proposal predates this administration or not.

[geowrian 22,337]

Policies and implementations are very different creatures. I can agree with a policy but hate how it is implemented. There's a lot of that going on right now IMHO.

[90DayFinancier 910]

1 hour ago, geowrian said:

Policies and implementations are very different creatures. I can agree with a policy but hate how it is implemented. There's a lot of that going on right now IMHO.

We don't even have a policy todate, just a Presidential proclamation. The expectation that these things can feasibly be implemented in 30 days is insane.

[geowrian 22,337]

15 minutes ago, 90DayFinancier said:

We don't even have a policy todate, just a Presidential proclamation. The expectation that these things can feasibly be implemented in 30 days is insane.

True. My bet is actual policies were not even in discussion at the time it was made.

Maybe I should have said concepts instead of just policies. I'm personally for requiring the insurance (unless possibly there are very, very significant assets), but there's too few details at this time so it invites chaos and confusion. A better approach, IMO, would have been to work with the healthcare exchanges to first put in a process so new immigrants would at least have that as an option available for a sort of "pre-enroll" - to go into effect upon entry on the visa. Then there would be no issue other than costs (which is a big issue still, but it at least leaves an option available for those who can't join the petitioner's plan and would be verifiable before the visa is issued).

 

Anyway, the point is there were options to do this much better but it appears to have been pushed through instead of planned with other agencies on how to implement it.

Edited October 26, 2019 by geowrian

[90DayFinancier 910]

3 hours ago, geowrian said:

True. My bet is actual policies were not even in discussion at the time it was made.

Maybe I should have said concepts instead of just policies. I'm personally for requiring the insurance (unless possibly there are very, very significant assets), but there's too few details at this time so it invites chaos and confusion. A better approach, IMO, would have been to work with the healthcare exchanges to first put in a process so new immigrants would at least have that as an option available for a sort of "pre-enroll" - to go into effect upon entry on the visa. Then there would be no issue other than costs (which is a big issue still, but it at least leaves an option available for those who can't join the petitioner's plan and would be verifiable before the visa is issued).

 

Anyway, the point is there were options to do this much better but it appears to have been pushed through instead of planned with other agencies on how to implement it.

You nailed it. "They" should bring you into the inner sanctum of cognicentie  and listen to your wisdom. I doubt that will happen. 

 

Question: why does some randos on the internet seem to understand how to implement a new federal policy (mas o menos ) but the duly elected and vetted officials in the White House do not?

[Bill Hamze 89]

Only a week before the proclamation goes into effect. Has anybody actually filed a suit to stop it? 

 

On another note, I'm thinking of petitioning for a green card for my wife around this time next year. So it'll be two years before we have that visa interview, and hopefully the guidelines will be clearer by then.