New Healthcare Requirements for US Immigrants

[Nitas_man 3,100]

5 hours ago, geowrian said:

1. Proclamation, not a law. Laws are voted on by Congress.
2. This takes effect in November.
3. This applies to immigrant visa applicants, not K-1 visas or AOS.
   1. The October 15th DHS rule that applies to AOS is discussed on another thread. That requires the I-944.

99% of regulatory code wasn’t passed by congress.  Once Congress gives leeway to one of the branches they start writing, leaving the courts to decide if what they write is what Congress intended (because Congress isn’t sitting down the street to clarify what they intended and all). 

[sol_sol 31]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-proclamation-suspension-entry-immigrants-will-financially-burden-united-states-healthcare-system/

Guys I read the original rule. According to that, this will not apply to parents visa IR5 provided that parents or their sponsors provide proof that they will not be  a burden on government. So it is just the same thing as was implemented on Jan 2018. Why we are arguing and wasting our time?

Edited October 7, 2019 by sol_sol

[implife 318]

1 hour ago, sol_sol said:

Why we are arguing and wasting our time?

uh... because it's the internet?

[Crazy Cat 42,296]

I think we are forgetting that this healthcare requirement is a step toward a merit-based immigration system.  

Edited October 7, 2019 by missileman

[Whanlin 42]

My employer does not offer insurance and the marketplace for me is close to 400 a month. I can't pay that. So I go without and self treat. Im young and pretty healthy. We have my husbands interview Oct 28th for his green card. When he gets his green card he will get insurance quickly (soft job offer) so while we knew we needed insurance we have just been waiting until he can go to work.

 

Now Im scared that he will be denied his green card. So Im looking at plans. We could just get him a plan right? I mean the US doesn't give a flip whether I have health care or not right? So we could get a plan that covers accident/hospitalization only?

Edited October 7, 2019 by Whanlin

[Unlockable 7,315]

1 hour ago, sol_sol said:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/presidential-proclamation-suspension-entry-immigrants-will-financially-burden-united-states-healthcare-system/

Guys I read the original rule. According to that, this will not apply to parents visa IR5 provided that parents or their sponsors provide proof that they will not be  a burden on government. So it is just the same thing as was implemented on Jan 2018. Why we are arguing and wasting our time?

Any debate (I'm using the term "debate" rather than "argue") is beneficial to people. VisaJourney is an immigration platform to discuss these topics. There should always be a platform for people to discuss things that impact them whether they agree with it or not. There should never be a time where people should not have the capacity to have civil discussions. It is the fundamental grounds for Freedom of Speech. Not only that, there are people who've even came in this thread and said that they have learned a great deal about this policy because of this discussion. Some may have had an obscure view of this new policy and this discussion may have helped them with clarity.

 

The last thing this thread is, is a waste of time. Even if it is to vent their frustration, people are free here to express their opinions on this topic as long as it is respectful and civil. No moderators, members, visitors nor anyone else should suggest otherwise.

[USS_Voyager 1,972]

2 hours ago, sol_sol said:

this will not apply to parents visa IR5 provided that parents or their sponsors provide proof that they will not be  a burden on government

Also, there are more than just IR5s are being affected. There are spouses, sons and daughters, brothers and sisters, DV winners, .... 

[Lil bear 4,328]

53 minutes ago, missileman said:

I think we are forgetting that this healthcare requirement is a move toward a merit-based immigration system.  

If this pronouncement is supposed to be part of that change ... it reminds me of the  country that decided to change from driving on the left hand  side of the road to driving on the right hand side of the road ..

They  had  the trucks and buses make the change on Monday... and the cars and taxis on Tuesday !🤪

[implife 318]

49 minutes ago, Unlockable said:

No moderators, members, visitors nor anyone else should suggest otherwise.

Wait, what happened to your "Freedom of Speech"???

[Elif_and_Greg 164]

On 10/5/2019 at 7:46 PM, Jorgedig said:

Why would they not?  Many workplace plans are far superior to plans you can purchase independently.

Because at the time of the person's interview, they wouldn't have that insurance yet. 

[Unlockable 7,315]

7 minutes ago, implife said:

Wait, what happened to your "Freedom of Speech"???

That statement was referring to Freedom of Speech.

 

Allow me to clarify... the previous sentence I stated  "Even if it is to vent their frustration, people are free here to express their opinions on this topic as long as it is respectful and civil". Then I followed with, "No moderators, members, visitors nor anyone else should suggest otherwise." The key word is "otherwise".

 

The second sentence means that nobody show suggest something other than (or otherwise) the first sentence, which is allowing people to express their opinions freely.

[Michael&Karen 46]

On 10/5/2019 at 12:09 AM, Jorgedig said:

Yup.  I added my husband to my workplace plan before his social security card arrived in the mail, and we just provided it later.

My interview date is far away date but I still wanna know... So is this true? My husband said he can add me on his insurance through his job before I have to enter to the US, is this possible? Cause obviously I don't have a SSN, thanks!!

[Just Paul 4,595]

6 minutes ago, Michael&Karen said:

My interview date is far away date but I still wanna know... So is this true? My husband said he can add me on his insurance through his job before I have to enter to the US, is this possible? Cause obviously I don't have a SSN, thanks!!

Yes, a spouse can be added without a SSN.  Things may still change a bit before your interview.  I'd check back in before and see what is going on.

[yuna628 9,713]

2 minutes ago, Michael&Karen said:

My interview date is far away date but I still wanna know... So is this true? My husband said he can add me on his insurance through his job before I have to enter to the US, is this possible? Cause obviously I don't have a SSN, thanks!!

An SSN is NOT required to obtain health insurance in this country. Those couples married and lucky enough to have an understanding HR or insurance agent of the law can very successfully add their spouse to their health insurance. Of course for K1 couples health insurance is a little more tricky until the marriage happens.

1 hour ago, Whanlin said:

My employer does not offer insurance and the marketplace for me is close to 400 a month. I can't pay that. So I go without and self treat. Im young and pretty healthy. We have my husbands interview Oct 28th for his green card. When he gets his green card he will get insurance quickly (soft job offer) so while we knew we needed insurance we have just been waiting until he can go to work.

 

Now Im scared that he will be denied his green card. So Im looking at plans. We could just get him a plan right? I mean the US doesn't give a flip whether I have health care or not right? So we could get a plan that covers accident/hospitalization only?

It is unknown how the terms of the proclamation would affect an AOS application at interview. I don't see it being a far stretch, but it is poorly worded and little is known. Since you have your application in before the October deadline, even if the interview occurs after the deadline, your case is based upon the old rules of self sufficiency where health insurance is not a factor. However, no one can guarantee what an officer might be interested in. If you had applied for an EAD with your AOS application, your husband could have been working already. You could get him any plan that is offered in your state right now, the same as yourself privately. Of course there will be cost for that. You could try and obtain a short term plan, but these are not ACA compliant and their coverage is dubious at best. I certainly understand about the cost, it's one of the many reasons that people choose to go without, but it is a good form of comingling for the future and is one of those responsibilities as a sponsor.

[Michael&Karen 46]

5 minutes ago, Paul & Mary said:

Yes, a spouse can be added without a SSN.  Things may still change a bit before your interview.  I'd check back in before and see what is going on.

Thank you very much , I feel better for now.