Women are struggling to find men who make as much money as they do

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,394]

9 hours ago, laylalex said:

I see. We may have reached an impasse. May I offer an image of Aubrey O'Day and Vanessa Trump instead?

I met Vanessa Trump once at a NY Fashion Week thingy, years ago. My sister got me in. Anyway, Vanessa was really friendly and very, very beautiful. Don Jr. really messed up by cheating on her with Aubrey O'Day.

Sometimes accidents happen

 

[Falcon Cara 378]

17 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

When you are single in your 40s and 50s. Make decent money, dont live with momma, and use soap, the pickens are easy. So little competition.   Then you factor in secretary mom, with 2 child supports about to run out, it gets embarrassing easy .

The problem is I don't want anyone my age, I want my woman to be in their 20's

[Dashinka 24,995]

11 hours ago, Boiler said:

Can we copyright and get royalties for new pronouns?

[laylalex 7,300]

59 minutes ago, Falcon Cara said:

The problem is I don't want anyone my age, I want my woman to be in their 20's

What's wrong with women who are, you know, adults? I'm 34 and hardly over the hill. I take good care of myself and play a supportive, nurturing role in my fiancé's life but also have a much better sense of who I am defined outside of a relationship. In my 20s, I had no idea who I was or what I wanted. I'm not alone among women in having been like this. What makes 30 the magical "yuck" cutoff?

[Boiler 46,411]

It is not a specific age, 30 may be considered the norm but I can think of examples both side. 

 

You can hardly deny its existence, there is a mega industry focused at delaying and reducing its impact.

[laylalex 7,300]

15 minutes ago, Boiler said:

It is not a specific age, 30 may be considered the norm but I can think of examples both side. 

 

You can hardly deny its existence, there is a mega industry focused at delaying and reducing its impact.

But if someone says they want their partner to be in their 20s, that means that there's a point at which every relationship "has" to end. There's no getting old together, no growing together. The (presumably) male partner gets to get older, but the woman doesn't? And even if it's not just about perceived physical attractiveness of women under 30, what then? Is it about how pliable we are then psychologically, how we haven't seen enough of the world to buy into BS that might be pushed on us? 

[Boiler 46,411]

I never said that, just saying if historically somebody was i their 30's before they felt they were in a position to settle down then usually they would be looking for somebody younger, not that they would then dump them when they hot 30 whatever, having said that of course it does happen and getting to a certainly age and swapping out for a younger wife has been the theme of many films, stories etc etc.

[luckytxn 2,265]

2 hours ago, Falcon Cara said:

The problem is I don't want anyone my age, I want my woman to be in their 20's

I did too until I reached my mid 40's.

[TBoneTX 46,443]

2 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Can we copyright and get royalties for new pronouns?

Si, xan.*

 

*Copyright TBoneTX 2019.  All rights reserved.

Edited September 30, 2019 by TBoneTX

[laylalex 7,300]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

I never said that, just saying if historically somebody was i their 30's before they felt they were in a position to settle down then usually they would be looking for somebody younger, not that they would then dump them when they hot 30 whatever, having said that of course it does happen and getting to a certainly age and swapping out for a younger wife has been the theme of many films, stories etc etc.

I'm just saying that to say that "I want my woman to be in her 20s" or whatever makes it sound like the guy is saying "I can grow older, but not her." I'm not judging people for finding life partners that are a lot older or younger than they are (not my thing personally but I will not judge), but I AM judging people who think there is an expiration date. I know exactly how men have significantly more social capital as they get older, and how women lose whatever "power" they have as they age. Why do you think I'm bothering to take care of myself, go to Pilates and yoga, eat well, visit the derm, etc.? It's so I don't lose so quickly what little I do have. I don't think I'll lose my husband when I hit 45 or anything, but I don't want that to be something I need to worry about. 

[Boris Farage 353]

5 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I'm just saying that to say that "I want my woman to be in her 20s" or whatever makes it sound like the guy is saying "I can grow older, but not her." I'm not judging people for finding life partners that are a lot older or younger than they are (not my thing personally but I will not judge), but I AM judging people who think there is an expiration date. I know exactly how men have significantly more social capital as they get older, and how women lose whatever "power" they have as they age. Why do you think I'm bothering to take care of myself, go to Pilates and yoga, eat well, visit the derm, etc.? It's so I don't lose so quickly what little I do have.

I actually agree with much of what you have written here. And it's interesting, because if I had written it, I would be excoriated for it. How dare I attack the VJ people who are interested in a specific age group. You say you don't judge but you wouldn't have brought it up if you weren't. And how does one target a specific age group? They use a marriage broker of course. Punch in the credit card, let the "evidence of a relationship" begin.

 

7 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I don't think I'll lose my husband when I hit 45 or anything, but I don't want that to be something I need to worry about. 

Based on everything you have written about him, I think you're right. He won't leave you when you're 45. He'll already have done it when you're 40.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, Boris Farage said:

I actually agree with much of what you have written here. And it's interesting, because if I had written it, I would be excoriated for it. How dare I attack the VJ people who are interested in a specific age group. You say you don't judge but you wouldn't have brought it up if you weren't. And how does one target a specific age group? They use a marriage broker of course. Punch in the credit card, let the "evidence of a relationship" begin.

 

 

   What you said was different. You specifically targeted VJ posters. As was already suggested, it is your delivery that could use work. I think you know that. You could have easily made the point you made without being offensive. You chose to word it the way you did to elicit a specific response. 

[laylalex 7,300]

2 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

I actually agree with much of what you have written here. And it's interesting, because if I had written it, I would be excoriated for it. How dare I attack the VJ people who are interested in a specific age group. You say you don't judge but you wouldn't have brought it up if you weren't. And how does one target a specific age group? They use a marriage broker of course. Punch in the credit card, let the "evidence of a relationship" begin.

I'm not judging people at all. I'm just saying it isn't for me. My ex was two months older than me and my fiance is four months older. I prefer being pretty much exactly the same age. I think you don't need to go online to a marriage broker or whatever to target a particular age group -- during the short time I was doing online dating (in between the two engagements I had to the ex) I was targeted by guys who were older than me, even though I specifically put in my profile I didn't want to date anyone more than about 3 years older than me (I was 24 then). When your age is out there, you become a target for just being, I dunno, fresh and inexperienced?

3 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Based on everything you have written about him, I think you're right. He won't leave you when you're 45. He'll already have done it when you're 40.

I won't even dignify that with a reply. He just moved in with me over the weekend after 14 YEARS of not being able to be together, of denying how we felt for that long. Why would he wait that long and go through all our respective heartbreaks in other relationships if he suddenly wanted to dump me 5 or 6 years later? By the way, you still owe me an email about red flags.

[Boris Farage 353]

4 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   What you said was different. You specifically targeted VJ posters. As was already suggested, it is your delivery that could use work. I think you know that. You could have easily made the point you made without being offensive. You chose to word it the way you did to elicit a specific response. 

I chose the wording I did because I don't mince words. I never attacked or mentioned specific people. I also made it clear that I don't really care how people live their lives or meet their women, but I'm also not going to pretend that purchasing access to a woman on a website for the purpose of a tailor made wife is somehow a romantic or natural occurrence. Many people here have gone this route, and it seems that many of those marriages end happily, and I am happy for those couples. But also let us not forget that the many that fail (likely a majority, but I have no proof) you will never learn of because those people won't stick around VJ unless they're ready to click the purchase button once more time.

 

You think I'm being deliberately acerbic, whereas I think you and others are deliberately taking offense on behalf of nobody who asked you to.

[Boris Farage 353]

3 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I'm not judging people at all. I'm just saying it isn't for me. My ex was two months older than me and my fiance is four months older. I prefer being pretty much exactly the same age. I think you don't need to go online to a marriage broker or whatever to target a particular age group -- during the short time I was doing online dating (in between the two engagements I had to the ex) I was targeted by guys who were older than me, even though I specifically put in my profile I didn't want to date anyone more than about 3 years older than me (I was 24 then). When your age is out there, you become a target for just being, I dunno, fresh and inexperienced?

I won't even dignify that with a reply. He just moved in with me over the weekend after 14 YEARS of not being able to be together, of denying how we felt for that long. Why would he wait that long and go through all our respective heartbreaks in other relationships if he suddenly wanted to dump me 5 or 6 years later?

Curious as to how you were online dating. Tinder? match.com? Did you have to use a credit card?

 

Men are attracted to young women. And even if you put your requirements in your profile, many men believe the shot not taken always loses. But just as well that you didn't wind up with anyone, I certainly would be very wary of someone whom I'd only met online.

 

 

3 minutes ago, laylalex said:

By the way, you still owe me an email about red flags.

Remind me via email, it's been awhile and I've completely lost the thread of the conversation.