VAWA, Part 16

[xoxox 72]

What is the difference between Legal Marriage and Religion Marriage ?

I never heard about Reglion marriage or reglion Divorce .

I am trying to help my friend She just lived in USA for less then two years.

Long store short .

She got married to abusive husband .

She Doesn't know anything about vawa .

After she told me her story I advised her to see lawyer and file 360 especially she has Good case and evdince , She is going to summbit the case by next week .

And I advised her to became member on this site to Learn more about vawa , She Doesn't really speak Good English and she doesn't read or write English at all , Russian is my first language and she does speaks Russian too .

After She got married in Civil Court with her Husband in USA then they decided to do Religion marriage at church or temple in usa as Celebrate marriage in religion way .

She had to get first Civil marriage in court in order too get religion marriage .

Actually after she got civil marriage certificate she was able to get reglion marriage certificate from church .

Now she is filling for divorce by the civil family court and she has final court day next week October 2019 .

 

At the church or temple they told her that She is not able to get the religion divorce  or it's very hard to get almost impossible but she will be able to remarried again in future if she wanted to  .. in her relagion Once she gets Civil divorce , the Religion Marriage will termented and Ended automatically but without Issued Reglion divorce certificate .

Because her Civil marriage related to reglion marriage .

Such as Condition Only able to get reglion marriage after getting Civil marriage , Once Civil marriage ended reglion marriage will Ended too .

I Didn't go into details with her but when she told me this story she said this is how is her Reglion .

So In front of God Her marriage will termented when she gets divorce by civil court and She Can't be Longer live with her Husband after that .

 

 For The legal part she has question .

 She Doesn't want face any problems in the future because of her reglion marriage .

Does it's legal to get Civil Divorce from Family Court and just leave relagion Part the way it is without getting religion divorce certificate without having any problems in the future  ? For USA law Is it Enough to get Civil Divorce from Family Court   ?

Thank you .

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 17, 2019 by xoxox

[Shroy123 749]

1 hour ago, xoxox said:

What is the difference between Legal Marriage and Religion Marriage ?

I never heard about Reglion marriage or reglion Divorce .

I am trying to help my friend She just lived in USA for less then two years.

Long store short .

She got married to abusive husband .

She Doesn't know anything about vawa .

After she told me her story I advised her to see lawyer and file 360 especially she has Good case and evdince , She is going to summbit the case by next week .

And I advised her to became member on this site to Learn more about vawa , She Doesn't really speak Good English and she doesn't read or write English at all , Russian is my first language and she does speaks Russian too .

After She got married in Civil Court with her Husband in USA then they decided to do Religion marriage at church or temple in usa as Celebrate marriage in religion way .

She had to get first Civil marriage in court in order too get religion marriage .

Actually after she got civil marriage certificate she was able to get reglion marriage certificate from church .

Now she is filling for divorce by the civil family court and she has final court day next week October 2019 .

 

At the church or temple they told her that She is not able to get the religion divorce  or it's very hard to get almost impossible but she will be able to remarried again in future if she wanted to  .. in her relagion Once she gets Civil divorce , the Religion Marriage will termented and Ended automatically but without Issued Reglion divorce certificate .

Because her Civil marriage related to reglion marriage .

Such as Condition Only able to get reglion marriage after getting Civil marriage , Once Civil marriage ended reglion marriage will Ended too .

I Didn't go into details with her but when she told me this story she said this is how is her Reglion .

So In front of God Her marriage will termented when she gets divorce by civil court and She Can't be Longer live with her Husband after that .

 

 For The legal part she has question .

 She Doesn't want face any problems in the future because of her reglion marriage .

Does it's legal to get Civil Divorce from Family Court and just leave relagion Part the way it is without getting religion divorce certificate without having any problems in the future  ? For USA law Is it Enough to get Civil Divorce from Family Court   ?

Thank you .

 

 

 

 

 

 

Like in Islam, we get married in Mosque and they issueD us islamic marriage certificate. But we had a civil marriage as well obviously when we went to court and signed the marriage certificate. Short story, there is no as such thing as religious marriage in usa. You can marry according to your religion but civil certificate is the one that makes you a married person

[Lola_lalo 211]

Hello to you all, I have a question. when I file for work authorisation I checked the box for SSN. Is there anyone who got a SSN with the work permit? If not what is the application process for SSN. 

@sandranj 

Thanks,

[Shroy123 749]

1 hour ago, Lola_lalo said:

Hello to you all, I have a question. when I file for work authorisation I checked the box for SSN. Is there anyone who got a SSN with the work permit? If not what is the application process for SSN. 

@sandranj 

Thanks,

You need to visit your local ssn office with your ead and passport

[LonelyButHopeful 9]

Hello everyone.

Tomorrow will be my marriage-based interview at USCIS in Omaha, and I will be attending alone. I will be telling the immigration officer to hold my I-485 until I file VAWA. Is there anything I should bring with me?

[Aburi2018 13]

17 hours ago, NeverGiveUp Nov17 said:

Hi @Aburi2018

Mat I ask when did you get your Vawa approved? Or share your timeline and how was the interview??? I would have my interview in SFO and I got my Vawa approved back in May 2019... just wondering how long might take...

thanks!!!

@NeverGiveUp Nov17 my vawa was approved nov 2018. feb 2019 I was sent a mail to send a new medical because the one I have on file is expired and we never received the  mail. Interview letter 9/30/19 at SFO. She pulled out my i485 and asked questions from there and updated some information like my Job and address. She asked how I came here and when. And asked for my documents and then the yes and no questions. She asked for my divorce papers but I didn’t have it with me.She also asked about my asylum application I filed when I got here and my lawyer told her it on a status doc or something. Not sure if the asylum will be a problem. Overall she was nice and interview lasted about 30 minutes.At end of interview, she gave me a rfe for medical.Goodluck to you on your interview

[Aburi2018 13]

18 hours ago, Stillwinning!!!😊 said:

Generally after sending in RFE response right after interview you should be approved "anytime soon" yes anytime soon because with USCIS you just never know! It's only the adjudicating officer that can say precisely when he's going to approve you! But from the trend I've seen here in your particular kind of situation, it doesn't take long..you can be approved in a matter of days from now..or tomorrow..💁 the most important thing is that you've sent in the RFE which has thankfully been received! Relax and wait for your good news!😊👍

@Stillwinning!!!😊 Thanks for your respond. I pray this should be the case with mine too🙏🙏🙏. 

[Aburi2018 13]

1 hour ago, LonelyButHopeful said:

Hello everyone.

Tomorrow will be my marriage-based interview at USCIS in Omaha, and I will be attending alone. I will be telling the immigration officer to hold my I-485 until I file VAWA. Is there anything I should bring with me?

@LonelyButHopeful I went for my marriage based interview too. Told the officer same thing and she didn’t ask me for any documents. I think  all I needed was my ID for identification.SF office California 

[John_ 188]

6 hours ago, LonelyButHopeful said:

Hello everyone.

Tomorrow will be my marriage-based interview at USCIS in Omaha, and I will be attending alone. I will be telling the immigration officer to hold my I-485 until I file VAWA. Is there anything I should bring with me?

Yes , Bring the  Form I-864W along with a letter requesting the Officer to change the basis of your pending Form  I-485 that is currently based on the I-130 that your spouse filed to you thato to be based on your pending VAWA-Self petition Form  I-360. 

 

Organize it and have it in hand with you go to the interview. 

 

Good luck. 

[flyup123 82]

20 hours ago, Roms2017 said:

Your Attorney should have included the form 864w in your file, unless she didn't know much about vawa case.

Also you could have asked people here 1 week before your interview what do you need to get ready.

We are here to help

Yeah, my attorney should’ve done a lot of other things that she didn’t, but that’s the situation now. And i’ve followed the conversation on this forum and didn’t see anyone mention that they brought this form with them, I had no clue this form is even required. Thanks anyways, I know this forum made me more knowledgeable about VAWA that my attorney would’ve ever done😉

[John_ 188]

6 hours ago, LonelyButHopeful said:

Hello everyone.

Tomorrow will be my marriage-based interview at USCIS in Omaha, and I will be attending alone. I will be telling the immigration officer to hold my I-485 until I file VAWA. Is there anything I should bring with me?

 

11 minutes ago, John_ said:

Yes , Bring the  Form I-864W along with a letter requesting the Officer to change the basis of your pending Form  I-485 that is currently based on the I-130 that your spouse filed to you thato to be based on your pending VAWA-Self petition Form  I-360. 

 

Organize it and have it in hand with you go to the interview. 

 

Good luck. 

Now i see, You did not file for VAWA yet.

 

you must notify the USCIS field officer adjudicating the pending Form I-485 that you have filed a VAWA self-petition or that you will do so within 30 days. You should also provide the USCIS field office with a safe address. 

 

 

[LonelyButHopeful 9]

1 minute ago, John_ said:

 

Now i see, You did not file for VAWA yet.

 

you must notify the USCIS field officer adjudicating the pending Form I-485 that you have filed a VAWA self-petition or that you will do so within 30 days. You should also provide the USCIS field office with a safe address. 

 

 

Should I still include a letter? Also, I just had a psychological evaluation done, but would have to re-do since it isn’t detailed enough. Should I bring that as well?

[Sandra G. 5,049]

21 hours ago, Nu B said:

Hello guys,

I share my story, I was married with USC for almost 5 moths, he has like mental problem, I didn’t know until I live in the house. He never hit me but for me he is over controlling me. Before we married he said never stop my religious activity but after married, he changed. He say I can go wherever I want while he is not home. They like to watch adultery movie while I don’t be as long as I sit with them it’s enough, they like to hiking every weekend at the same spot but I don’t because it’s boring. While they often off the track too which is I don’t like because it’s danger. That’s why, weekend always become the stressed days ever for me since married.
The things that I don’t like because he always say that this is our time together as a married couple, we need to spend time together. I feel something isn’t right and I feel trap. I gave up.

That’s why, I run away from the house and after I had some suggestions from USCIS officer and the police officer. I move to a friend’s house in another city.

Until now, my husband tried to call me and leave some voicemails also my father-in-law to ask me comeback to the house again, and the things that made me surprised, they said they will pay my credit card bill (since they know I’m not working since I move to their house and I don’t have money) and they said wants to continue my i130, as long as I comeback home.

But, for me it’s enough, since the 1st and the 2nd month my father-in-law always pays my credit card bill, stop in the 3rd and 4th month but remember again in the 5th month after I left them.

Also, the weekend time become a nightmare I’m afraid, they will ask me to go hiking to unknown place and do something bad to me.

 

What should I do know guys?

Since I move to another city and call some legal aid services and they didn’t know vawa and they said it stop already, they suggested me to make restraining order and go to the court. I don’t want to see my husband and my father-in-law (he is a lawyer too) for now.

 

Any suggestions will help me sooo much. Thank you guys. I’m sorry if too much. God bless you all!
 

Don't return to his house if you fear for your life. The only thing you said here is that your husband likes to watch movies about adultery, but what kind of abuse did you endure while living with him? because he has a preference for certain movies this is not abuse. You need more than control to prove extreme cruelty. I am not saying you were not abused but  I am considering what you wrote here, 99% of the time I had an idea of the abuse suffered just reading what the person wrote and I don't see extreme cruelty here.As said maybe you suffered abuse but it's not specified here.

 

I hear all the time people saying " my husband is abusing, he has mental problems", let me explain something here abusers don't have a mental problem, abuse is a deliberate choice to abuser someone. A person with mental problems, someone "ill", the majority of the time he/she is not responsible for his/her acts. Abusers have a complete notion of what is wrong and right.

 

 

Edited October 17, 2019 by sandranj

[John_ 188]

5 minutes ago, LonelyButHopeful said:

Should I still include a letter? Also, I just had a psychological evaluation done, but would have to re-do since it isn’t detailed enough. Should I bring that as well?

Yes,  bring the  Form I-864W along with a letter. Hopefully the Officer will hold your Form  I-485, but you have to file the I-360 ASAP

If he denies your I-485 you can file a new one with Form I-360

[Sandra G. 5,049]

12 hours ago, xoxox said:

What is the difference between Legal Marriage and Religion Marriage ?

I never heard about Reglion marriage or reglion Divorce .

I am trying to help my friend She just lived in USA for less then two years.

Long store short .

She got married to abusive husband .

She Doesn't know anything about vawa .

After she told me her story I advised her to see lawyer and file 360 especially she has Good case and evdince , She is going to summbit the case by next week .

And I advised her to became member on this site to Learn more about vawa , She Doesn't really speak Good English and she doesn't read or write English at all , Russian is my first language and she does speaks Russian too .

After She got married in Civil Court with her Husband in USA then they decided to do Religion marriage at church or temple in usa as Celebrate marriage in religion way .

She had to get first Civil marriage in court in order too get religion marriage .

Actually after she got civil marriage certificate she was able to get reglion marriage certificate from church .

Now she is filling for divorce by the civil family court and she has final court day next week October 2019 .

 

At the church or temple they told her that She is not able to get the religion divorce  or it's very hard to get almost impossible but she will be able to remarried again in future if she wanted to  .. in her relagion Once she gets Civil divorce , the Religion Marriage will termented and Ended automatically but without Issued Reglion divorce certificate .

Because her Civil marriage related to reglion marriage .

Such as Condition Only able to get reglion marriage after getting Civil marriage , Once Civil marriage ended reglion marriage will Ended too .

I Didn't go into details with her but when she told me this story she said this is how is her Reglion .

So In front of God Her marriage will termented when she gets divorce by civil court and She Can't be Longer live with her Husband after that .

 

 For The legal part she has question .

 She Doesn't want face any problems in the future because of her reglion marriage .

Does it's legal to get Civil Divorce from Family Court and just leave relagion Part the way it is without getting religion divorce certificate without having any problems in the future  ? For USA law Is it Enough to get Civil Divorce from Family Court   ?

Thank you .

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is no religious divorce, there is "annulment" of marriage from the church in some religions. People sometimes file this kind of annulment because they want to remarry in the church again and it's not related  to a civil marriage ok.

 

Legally speaking she won't have any problem to remarry again (civil marriage). She has  to see with her church if she decides to have a church marriage again.