Man drowns during underwater marriage proposal

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

10 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

You don't have to write it down. But you should practice it. It's one of the most important moments in your life. More importantly, it's the most important moment in HER life. A man serious enough to propose should be serious enough to make sure it is absolute perfection.

Couldn't disagree more.  Didn't practice a word of it, and it was perfect in the moment.

 

Especially on "the most important moment in her life" part.  When she's enjoying his income and not having to work is a much more important moment.

[laylalex 7,300]

5 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

You don't have to write it down. But you should practice it. It's one of the most important moments in your life. More importantly, it's the most important moment in HER life. A man serious enough to propose should be serious enough to make sure it is absolute perfection.

Oh please! The first proposal I got from my ex (I had two, I broke it off with him, and he proposed again six months later) was a total disaster. I was at his parents' for Christmas and we had just opened all the presents in front of the tree, and there was a fire blazing, and we'd been drinking champagne all morning and even his mother was being pleasant to me. And he had this whole speech for me, about how I was the most perfect, true thing in his life, and how I completed his existence, and that I was his greatest comfort when things were difficult (like he had much difficulty in his life but whatever), and it was a littttttttle OTT. I am sure it was heartfelt, but it was a bit much in retrospect. Anyway, as I was listening to him and he was getting down on one knee, his mother's Irish setter knocked me over into the Christmas tree and somehow this was my fault. Okay, he accepted it was the dog but his mother straight up called me clumsy. 

 

Number two, we were at Nobu together, he was trying to win me back. And there were all these people around us, and he's down on his knee in this fancy restaurant and I'm supposed to say anything but yes? It was uncomfortable. I much prefer the awkwardness I got the other month. But that's just me.

[laylalex 7,300]

3 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Sounds like Freudian slip for "I'm going to get cold feet" to me.

 

But it's your life. I promise not to gloat (much) when it unravels. It all just seems very off to me.

I clearly missed an opportunity to introduce the two of you when we were down in LA the other week. You might have enjoyed discussing the ins and outs of "proper" proposals. We could have done it over boxed wine.  

[laylalex 7,300]

2 minutes ago, ALFKAD said:

Couldn't disagree more.  Didn't practice a word of it, and it was perfect in the moment.

 

Especially on "the most important moment in her life" part.  When she's enjoying his income and not having to work is a much more important moment.

Well, I WILL keep on working even though I don't have to. I get really bored when I don't have anything to do. And you know what they say about idle hands......

 

They end up knitting a lot of hats and scarves, in my experience.  

[Boris Farage 353]

1 minute ago, laylalex said:

I am sure it was heartfelt, but it was a bit much in retrospect.

Imagine the preparation and heartfelt emotion he put into that "OTT display." How patient and careful he must have been to craft the perfect proposal. Perhaps it was over the top, but these are moments meant to be. How exactly does one go to bended knee without being a little over the top?

 

And now here you are, mocking what must have been a lovely gesture.

 

1 minute ago, laylalex said:

Number two, we were at Nobu together, he was trying to win me back. And there were all these people around us, and he's down on his knee in this fancy restaurant and I'm supposed to say anything but yes? It was uncomfortable. I much prefer the awkwardness I got the other month. But that's just me.

You can always say no. Did he have a knife to your throat or a gun to your head? Take some responsibility for your actions.

[laylalex 7,300]

3 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Imagine the preparation and heartfelt emotion he put into that "OTT display." How patient and careful he must have been to craft the perfect proposal. Perhaps it was over the top, but these are moments meant to be. How exactly does one go to bended knee without being a little over the top?

 

And now here you are, mocking what must have been a lovely gesture.

 

You can always say no. Did he have a knife to your throat or a gun to your head? Take some responsibility for your actions.

He was given towards these OTT pronouncements and gestures because I don't think anyone had taught him the subtleties that love can bring. It didn't have to be such an emotionally charged moment. It felt ... stage managed. Do I doubt he felt those things he expressed? No. He meant it. Perhaps I was a little too harsh. He wanted to share it with family, and it really was Jasper the dog's fault more than anyone else's.

 

But the second time? It was awkward in its own way. I didn't have a gun to my head. I just felt... sorry for him. And he had tried SO hard to apologize for hurting me.

 

Sorry, I didn't mean for this to be "Layla pours her heart out about everything about her past" night but this boxed wine goes down too nicely.  (Not boxed wine, it's some non-fancy champagne.)

[Boris Farage 353]

10 minutes ago, laylalex said:

He was given towards these OTT pronouncements and gestures because I don't think anyone had taught him the subtleties that love can bring. It didn't have to be such an emotionally charged moment. It felt ... stage managed. Do I doubt he felt those things he expressed? No. He meant it. Perhaps I was a little too harsh. He wanted to share it with family, and it really was Jasper the dog's fault more than anyone else's.

 

But the second time? It was awkward in its own way. I didn't have a gun to my head. I just felt... sorry for him. And he had tried SO hard to apologize for hurting me.

 

Sorry, I didn't mean for this to be "Layla pours her heart out about everything about her past" night but this boxed wine goes down too nicely.  (Not boxed wine, it's some non-fancy champagne.)

Do this fellow a favor, and never let him know you thought of him in such a wretched way. Please take this as constructively as possible, but I do wonder if maybe you shouldn't get yourself together before jumping into another marriage.

[laylalex 7,300]

2 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Do this fellow a favor, and never let him know you thought of him in such a wretched way. Please take this as constructively as possible, but I do wonder if maybe you shouldn't get yourself together before jumping into another marriage.

Oh, I'm pretty sure he knows how I've thought about him!   He and my dad are still buddies (can't even believe it) and they go to Dodgers games together. I was down there the other week, as I mentioned, and my dad *thought* he was being clever by not mentioning to the ex that I would be there with my fiance when the ex came to pick up my dad. There was... some swearing.  The worst was when he body shamed my fiance as a parting shot, not nice.

 

Also, I go to therapy every week, thanks for your concern, have done so for years. At least I haven't had to take Klonopin for QUITE a while. 

[Boris Farage 353]

22 minutes ago, laylalex said:

The worst was when he body shamed my fiance as a parting shot, not nice.

Oh dear. I had no idea your fiance was so... fragile.

 

I'm starting to like your ex. 😉

[laylalex 7,300]

4 minutes ago, Boris Farage said:

Oh dear. I had no idea your fiance was so... fragile.

 

I'm starting to like your ex. 😉

He's not, thanks. It rolled right off of him. He knows what kind of shape he is in. I'm satisfied with it. 

 

I tend to think you and my ex would get along just fine. He lives in Downtown LA too, you've probably bumped into each other at some Republican fundraiser. Can't be too many of you English Republicans who loooooooove them some Trump out there in Los Angeles. 

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16 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

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Regarding OTT proposals:

1.  I would never dream of putting someone on the spot in public.  How pretentious.

2.  If I were the "public OTT" recipient, I'd be highly embarrassed and perhaps offended.

     OTT proposals are to show off the perpetrator, not to flatter the recipient.

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11 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

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Regarding OTT proposals:

1.  I would never dream of putting someone on the spot in public.  How pretentious.

2.  If I were the "public OTT" recipient, I'd be highly embarrassed and perhaps offended.

     OTT proposals are to show off the perpetrator, not to flatter the recipient.

No proposals on the big screen?

 

As to the linked, the third one is great.

 

https://www.review-weekly.com/blog/5-epic-marriage-proposal-fails/

[laylalex 7,300]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

No proposals on the big screen?

 

As to the linked, the third one is great.

 

https://www.review-weekly.com/blog/5-epic-marriage-proposal-fails/

The fifth one sounds almost like my first proposal! (Although it features grandparents, who were not there, and doesn't feature a dog, who was. Oh, and I said yes.)

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On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 10:56 PM, Boris Farage said:

You don't have to write it down. But you should practice it. It's one of the most important moments in your life. More importantly, it's the most important moment in HER life. A man serious enough to propose should be serious enough to make sure it is absolute perfection.

Most important moment of a woman's life? Please. There will be a million more moments in one's life that end up being more important than some fancy stagecraft to ask a simple question. Proposing requires nothing elaborate and nothing 'perfection'. It requires two honest people that love each other, a ring (though these days you don't really need that either), and speaking from the heart.

 

On ‎9‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 10:42 PM, ALFKAD said:

Practice his proposal?  Why?  If it comes from the heart, it needs no practice.  I'd be leery of a person who had to write their proposal down and practice it.

I would indeed be leery too. It smacks of dishonesty and needless pageantry. It's the little memorable 'imperfections', the tiny little moments, that made it a special moment to me (ten years ago now!) but certainly not the most important of my life.