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How many are filing N-400s before the I-751 has been approved?

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Mike Bico   9

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I filed N400 while waiting on ROC... that is still pending. :(

My Timeline:

Non-immigration visa:

Arrived in US on F1 Visa in Dec 2008

Graduated and started working on H1B visa in Jan 2012

On H1B visa until July 2015.

 

Immigration Journey:

Houston Office.

 

I-485 (Green Card Application):-

Married US Citizen : July 2015 

Applied for GC : Sept 2015

2 Years GC through marriage : Nov 2016

 

I-751 (ROC):-

I751 (ROC) PD : Aug 9, 2018 

Case transferred to Potomac from California : June 7, 2019

ROC Bio-metrics : July 8, 2019 

Case outside of normal processing time, opened an inquiry : Jan 13, 2020

Case transferred to Houston Office for an interview: Feb 3, 2020 

 

N400 (Citizenship):-

Applied N400 (Three years marriage rule) : Aug 5, 2019 (Pending I751)

N400 Bio-metrics : Aug 29, 2019

N400 Interview Notice : Nov 16, 2020

N400 Interview Scheduled for Dec 16, 2020

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Crazy Cat
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My wife plans to file her N-400 when she becomes eligible in March......she has a pending I-751.  I see no downside.

geowrian
geowrian

You may file 90 days prior to the date of otherwise becoming eligible. If (still) married to a USC for at least 3 years AND have been an LPR for at least that same period, then that would be 90 d

geowrian
geowrian

No issue filing the N-400 while ROC is pending. I don't know how many people are doing it (raw numbers or percentage), but it's a pretty common circumstance still. It may or may not result in a combo

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Dongbei   22

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28 minutes ago, Mike Bico said:

I filed N400 while waiting on ROC... that is still pending. :(

Have you had any progress on your case?

8/16/18 -- Married

10/23/18 -- I-130 filed (DCF in Beijing)

12/03/18 -- I-130 approved

12/23/18 -- Packet 3 Sent to GZ

12/28/18 -- Packet 4 received

02/14/19 -- Interview in GZ -- approved!

Total: 113 days from filing to approval

07/15/19 -- Entered US

08/13/19 -- Applied for Social Security Card

08/16/19 -- Green Card received

08/22/19 -- Social Security Card received

6/22/21 – I-751 (Removal of Conditions) mailed out via USPS

6/29/21 - I-751 NOA

9/17/21 - I-751 Biometrics

6/8/22 - I-751 approved (interview waived under new 2022 rule)

6/15/22 - 10-year GC received in mail!

Total: 358 days from filing to receiving 10-year GC

6/18/22 - N-400 filed online

11/18/22 - Interview scheduled for Dallas Field Office

 

PR&PR Community Regular

PR&PR   325

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On 9/21/2019 at 6:29 PM, visaqueries said:

We filed the n400 online before the I-751 was approved. It worked perfectly for us...filed n400 March 2018...citizen September 26, 2018. Our I-751 was filed in March 2017, and his joint interview was only a few months after we filed the n400. 

Quick question, when applying for I-751, there are filing fees, say you get the citizenship right away instead, do those fees get applied towards that? Or was there fees on top of the filing for the Green Card itself, which you end up not paying?

01/05/17    I-129F mailed to CSC
01/10/17    i-129F received date

05/10/17    NOA2 approved

05/31/17    NVC received

06/14/17    NVC assigned case number

06/16/17  NVC case number received (by phone)

06/16/17  NVC Left (online program)

06/19/17 Status updated to 'Ready'

06/19/17 Packet 3 sent

07/11/17 Packet 4 received

06/17/17 Letter received from Embassy

08/02/17  Interview Date (approved)

08/07/17 Visa ready for pick up

08/14/17 VISA IN HAND

08/14/17 POE Montreal (preclearance)/Minneapolis

09/08/17 MARRIED

09/12/17 Submitted I-485/I-765/I-131

09/15/17 Received date on the 3 NOA1

10/12/17 Biometrics appt.

10/27/17 Case ready to be scheduled for interview

12/13/17 Approval Notice date

12/21/17 Card in Hand

09/12/18 Mailed Submission for I-765/I-131 renewal

09/14/18 Case was rcvd

09/17/18 E-notification

10/25/18 Rcvd interview letter

11/28/18 Interview

12/15/18 Approved (Had to redo my physical or we would have been approved on the spot)

 

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implife   318

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7 minutes ago, PR&PR said:

Quick question, when applying for I-751, there are filing fees, say you get the citizenship right away instead, do those fees get applied towards that? Or was there fees on top of the filing for the Green Card itself, which you end up not paying?

Nope. You will pay, and pay, and pay. For every single step.

geowrian Grand Master

geowrian   22,337

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8 minutes ago, PR&PR said:

Quick question, when applying for I-751, there are filing fees, say you get the citizenship right away instead, do those fees get applied towards that? Or was there fees on top of the filing for the Green Card itself, which you end up not paying?

Citizenship requires the I-751 being approved first or at the same time, so no skipping any fees.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

PR&PR Community Regular

PR&PR   325

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6 minutes ago, implife said:

Nope. You will pay, and pay, and pay. For every single step.

Says the guy who by his timeline has not completed the process thus is not speaking from experience. This is a forum to help people, not just throw random stuff and negativity. I get it, this process is lengthy, expensive and take way longer than it should. It is easy to become sour. 

2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Citizenship requires the I-751 being approved first or at the same time, so no skipping any fees.

Thank you Geowrian, always helpful as usual!

 

Either way, in the long term there is a saving on not having to renew the 10years GC :).

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01/05/17    I-129F mailed to CSC
01/10/17    i-129F received date

05/10/17    NOA2 approved

05/31/17    NVC received

06/14/17    NVC assigned case number

06/16/17  NVC case number received (by phone)

06/16/17  NVC Left (online program)

06/19/17 Status updated to 'Ready'

06/19/17 Packet 3 sent

07/11/17 Packet 4 received

06/17/17 Letter received from Embassy

08/02/17  Interview Date (approved)

08/07/17 Visa ready for pick up

08/14/17 VISA IN HAND

08/14/17 POE Montreal (preclearance)/Minneapolis

09/08/17 MARRIED

09/12/17 Submitted I-485/I-765/I-131

09/15/17 Received date on the 3 NOA1

10/12/17 Biometrics appt.

10/27/17 Case ready to be scheduled for interview

12/13/17 Approval Notice date

12/21/17 Card in Hand

09/12/18 Mailed Submission for I-765/I-131 renewal

09/14/18 Case was rcvd

09/17/18 E-notification

10/25/18 Rcvd interview letter

11/28/18 Interview

12/15/18 Approved (Had to redo my physical or we would have been approved on the spot)

 

implife Community Regular

implife   318

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2 minutes ago, PR&PR said:

Says the guy who by his timeline has not completed the process thus is not speaking from experience. This is a forum to help people, not just throw random stuff and negativity. I get it, this process is lengthy, expensive and take way longer than it should. It is easy to become sour. 

Dude, you got to chill. Don't make assumptions about others. Your life will be easier that way. 

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Vita N Newbie

Vita N   0

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On 9/21/2019 at 10:30 PM, geowrian said:

An N-400 is adjudicated separately from the I-751, although:

1) Sometimes they may do a combo interview and adjudicate them together

2) The N-400 cannot be approved before the I-751. Worst case is they hold off on a decision until the I-751 is approved.

I got an hold off on a decision. They said they gotta review my i751. So do you know how long this take? My i751 is divorce case. 

 
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