100 days after the exam and counting.

[afrocraft 314]

2 hours ago, gt1 said:

Yes, I already found the form on the web- https://cliniclegal.org/sites/default/files/toolkits/citizenship/N652.pdf

The look of it doesn't ring a bell.

OK. That's problematic. You have no real proof of the decision, then. Who knows if you misheard the officer?

 

No worry, though. If I were you, I would write the Field Officer and ask for an update (check the USCIS website for the office mailing address, and send via certified mail). Ask for an update, recounting your application history (filing date, biometric date, interview date, and interview outcome, and no RFE). Say it's now gone past 90 days.

[panssey 7]

On 9/26/2019 at 5:53 PM, afrocraft said:

OK. That's problematic. You have no real proof of the decision, then. Who knows if you misheard the officer?

 

No worry, though. If I were you, I would write the Field Officer and ask for an update (check the USCIS website for the office mailing address, and send via certified mail). Ask for an update, recounting your application history (filing date, biometric date, interview date, and interview outcome, and no RFE). Say it's now gone past 90 days.

hello Afrocraft!

One more question to you - if I have a proof of the decision, can anything be done regarding the time of the oath ceremony scheduling?

yes, I know that it takes longer for the oath ceremony to be scheduled in case of the name change but it's already been 120 days of waiting for me.

thank you for your help.  

[panssey 7]

On 9/20/2019 at 6:48 PM, gt1 said:

Had the exam on June 5th. No oath scheduled as of today, the last update online is from May2nd "We scheduled your interview...". I even called the USCIS help line and somehow got through the automated circus. The representative told me that the total N-400 processing time, including the oath is 12-18 months, and it includes the oath. The oath ceremonies around here are scheduled every 2-3 weeks, so it is not the reason for the delay. What else can I do?

 

hello gt1!

do you have any news or updates regarding your relative's N-400 case / oath ceremony? 

[afrocraft 314]

44 minutes ago, panssey said:

One more question to you - if I have a proof of the decision, can anything be done regarding the time of the oath ceremony scheduling?

Very little, unfortunately, besides following up yourself, asking your Congressional rep for case assistance, etc. USCIS is under no specific timelines to schedule your oath ceremony.

[panssey 7]

6 minutes ago, afrocraft said:

Very little, unfortunately, besides following up yourself, asking your Congressional rep for case assistance, etc. USCIS is under no specific timelines to schedule your oath ceremony.

thank you for your reply.

What exactly do you mean by following up myself? I called USCIS a couple of times without any success. Also emailed a senator but got nothing but an automated reply "thank you for contacting us" a month ago. Should I try to reach a congressman? Or the second state senator since the first one didn't have time to reply anything.

[panssey 7]

It is a little bit frustrating to read all these posts how people who filed in May -June 2019 are being scheduled already for their interviews in the same office, while I who filed in July 2018 am still waiting. They will probably be done with their naturalization ceremony prior me.

[afrocraft 314]

12 minutes ago, panssey said:

thank you for your reply.

What exactly do you mean by following up myself? I called USCIS a couple of times without any success. Also emailed a senator but got nothing but an automated reply "thank you for contacting us" a month ago. Should I try to reach a congressman? Or the second state senator since the first one didn't have time to reply anything.

Hang in there. Try second senator and congressman. You've been approved, so there's nothing to lose. And every 2 weeks, contact USCIS via secure message on the application website. 

[panssey 7]

11 minutes ago, afrocraft said:

Hang in there. Try second senator and congressman. You've been approved, so there's nothing to lose. And every 2 weeks, contact USCIS via secure message on the application website. 

Could you please explain to me: how do I contact them via secure message on the application website?

[afrocraft 314]

Just now, panssey said:

Could you please explain to me: how do I contact them via secure message on the application website?

Did you file your N-400 online? There's an option for sending USCIS a message via your online account.

[panssey 7]

5 minutes ago, afrocraft said:

Did you file your N-400 online? There's an option for sending USCIS a message via your online account.

yes, I filed online. Where can I find this option?

[afrocraft 314]

3 minutes ago, panssey said:

yes, I filed online. Where can I find this option?

It's been a while since I logged in, but from memory it should be on the upper right side when you click account or profile or something like that.

[gt1 1]

2 hours ago, panssey said:

hello gt1!

do you have any news or updates regarding your relative's N-400 case / oath ceremony? 

I called USCIS again. Spoke to a different agent, but the stance was the same- look at the processing times- Baltimore shows 12 to 23.5 months from the application acceptance date- you are at 16 months- call us back if don't hear from us after 23.5 months or whatever the maximum processing time will on the website.

Also told me that the N562 is optional and the officer may not give it after the interview and schooled me that I shouldn't say that the application was approved because it was "recommended for approval".

I'm not quite sure what our options are. I doubt that writing to a congressman will do anything- their office will send inquiry to USCIS, they will reply that our case is within the usual processing time. Can a lawyer help?

[afrocraft 314]

6 minutes ago, gt1 said:

I called USCIS again. Spoke to a different agent, but the stance was the same- look at the processing times- Baltimore shows 12 to 23.5 months from the application acceptance date- you are at 16 months- call us back if don't hear from us after 23.5 months or whatever the maximum processing time will on the website.

Also told me that the N562 is optional and the officer may not give it after the interview and schooled me that I shouldn't say that the application was approved because it was "recommended for approval".

I'm not quite sure what our options are. I doubt that writing to a congressman will do anything- their office will send inquiry to USCIS, they will reply that our case is within the usual processing time. Can a lawyer help?

They're just blowing you off. And that agent is factually wrong about both the processing time (doesn't apply once the interview has happened) and the N-652 (it's not discretionary). Per the USCIS Policy Manual:

 

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USCIS has 120 days from the date of the initial naturalization interview to issue a decision. If the decision is not issued within 120 days of the interview, an applicant may request judicial review of his or her application in district court. The officer must base his or her decision on the laws, regulations, precedent decisions, and governing policies.

 

The officer may:

• Approve the application;

• Continue the examination without making a decision (if more information is needed), if the applicant needs to be rescheduled, or for other relevant reasons; or

• Deny the application.

The officer must provide the applicant with a notice of results at the end of the interview regardless of the outcome. The notice should address the outcome of the interview and the next steps involved for continued cases.

 

I have advised you on how to proceed in an earlier post. Ball is in your court. 

[panssey 7]

1 hour ago, afrocraft said:

It's been a while since I logged in, but from memory it should be on the upper right side when you click account or profile or something like that.

Thank you for your answers and your help. I think I have found this option.

[afrocraft 314]

2 minutes ago, panssey said:

Thank you for your answers and your help. I think I have found this option.

Happy to help. From experience, they usually respond in 2 business days, and your message is stored on file.