HOW MUCH PROOF IS ENOUGH?

[Sarge2155 4,590]

6 hours ago, inneedofmyhb said:

With my 130 spouse petition for my husband, our attorney did not include any of the items you listed and we DID received an RFE for proof of bonafide marriage after pending for 11 months. I sent them 476 pages of evidence. So, in my opinion, things have gotten stricter in regards to evidence of relationship. It doesn’t hurt to send what you have. If this evidence would have been sent with our petition, we wouldn’t have had to wait so long for approval. Send it all. 

I agree as time changes so does the adjudication process and the evidences that help you to be approved.  What you have to remember is that during the interview the CO is NOT required to look at any additional documents or proofs your beneficary will hand carry to the interview other than the required documents. I personally advise a front loaded  petition as it gives your beneficary the best chance at approval. Times change and its much harder now. Although I agree some  of the OP proofs are a bit much. Don't  walk away from a Lawyer or rapid visa......RUN AWAY. They don't  control how fast you will be approved and IMO cause more harm than good. Save your money file yourself.

[geowrian 22,337]

To be direct, any "proof" is enough. But you don't send proof...you send evidence. Proof would involve going into your head to know what you each are thinking.

 

As for evidence, a lot depends on your individual circumstances and the country involved. For a high fraud country, front-loading is generally highly suggested as the CO may review the case and form an opinion before the interview. For others, frontloading evidence has no benefit at all.

Even if you do frontload, keep it reasonable. Nobody is going to look at hundreds of photos, pages of chat, etc. Focus on quality, not quantity.

Edited September 21, 2019 by geowrian

[Sarge2155 4,590]

2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

To be direct, any "proof" is enough. But you don't send proof...you send evidence. Proof would involve going into your head to know what you each are thinking.

 

As for evidence, a lot depends on your individual circumstances and the country involved. For a high fraud country, front-loading is generally highly suggested as the CO may review the case and form an opinion before the interview. For others, frontloading evidence has no benefit at all.

Even if you do frontload, keep it reasonable. Nobody is going to look at hundreds of photos, pages of chat, etc. Focus on quality, not quantity.

Proof evidences I used the words interchangeably, but I agree  and understand what you mean.

[geowrian 22,337]

6 minutes ago, Sarge2155 said:

Proof evidences I used the words interchangeably, but I agree  and understand what you mean.

My comment actually wasn't targeted at any particular post. Sorry if it came off otherwise!

[Sarge2155 4,590]

5 minutes ago, geowrian said:

My comment actually wasn't targeted at any particular post. Sorry if it came off otherwise!

No worries!

[RCable 75]

10 hours ago, inneedofmyhb said:

With my 130 spouse petition for my husband, our attorney did not include any of the items you listed and we DID received an RFE for proof of bonafide marriage after pending for 11 months. I sent them 476 pages of evidence. So, in my opinion, things have gotten stricter in regards to evidence of relationship. It doesn’t hurt to send what you have. If this evidence would have been sent with our petition, we wouldn’t have had to wait so long for approval. Send it all. 

Completely different visa, for fiancé visa they want proof the couple has met in person. There’s a difference between that and proof that a marriage is legitimate.

 

I agree with the previous poster who suggested you looking into the CR1. Overall it is cheaper and slightly less painful as you won’t have the AOS process. Yes you’d have to be married first, but once you have the visa, you can work in the US. The AOS with the fiancé visa and can take a while and you can’t work on that one. 

 

There’s A LOT more to it. I suggest you research both thoroughly and make your decision then. The K1 is more beneficial for people who can’t travel to the US without a visa. This allows them to come to the US to get married.

 

Good luck!

[Ryan H 3,819]

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On ‎9‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 12:54 PM, lovingnaustralian said:

• engagement ring receipt
• Wedding Dress Shopping Confirmation Emails

 

Engagement ring receipts and dress shopping confirmation emails are worthless; don't bother including such items.

Edited September 22, 2019 by Ryan H

[Naomi1984 12]

On 9/21/2019 at 7:05 AM, lovingnaustralian said:

It looks like for the CR1, we would need to be married. Which we aren't, yet. From your perspective, why would this potentially be a better option?

My husband and I just filed the CR1 visa.

 

The pros are it's cheaper, your spouse will be a Legal Permanent Resident and have a green card (stamp in their passport) the minute they arrive. They can work and travel straight away. From what I remember the work permit is taking upwards of six months on the K1 visa. For me personally I would feel terrible waiting at home for six months while my husband went to work every day. I don't think it would help with the homesickness either!

 

I've read a few people on here who went through the K1 and said they would have done the CR1 if they had to do it all over again.

 

[Naomi1984 12]

This list is what I was looking for from @missileman

K-1

    More expensive than CR-1

    Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)

    Spouse can not leave the US until she receives approved Advance Parole (approx 3-4 months)

    Spouse can not work until she receives EAD (approx 3-4 months)

    some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period .

    Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.

CR-1

    Less expensive than K-1

    No AOS required.

    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US

    Spouse can start work if desired

    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card withing 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US

    Spouse  has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.

[wingman23 140]

On 9/20/2019 at 4:29 PM, lovingnaustralian said:

Also regarding additional information, what would be the appropriate item number to put? For instance, when listing all addresses? 

For listing all addresses, we put in items 11 to 12 (page 2, part 1, items 11 to 12).

item 11a: street name

item 11c,d,e: city, state, zip code

item 12a: start date

item 12b: end date

 

hope this helps.