Catch-22?

[yassmine2878 1]

Hey Guys,

Was having some dinner... I can handle the truth... Take it easy on me.... Not to worry..

I have not sent in the application yet so no Fraud has been committed. Thanks for the replies...

1. I concur on the Mom's death issue... My Fiancee is somehow convinced that the Embassy is going to check this and cause a problem... Seems like either way the possibility of them checking is very small, but I agree the truth is always the better option.

2. On the signature issue... It seems like a signed scanned copy should be sufficient... But there I go using common sense. I was hoping it might be an easy shortcut and save some time, money and effort.

Thanks for the info.

James & Svetlana

On the signature issue.... Yes, it must be her signature. I had alot of trouble getting my husband to fill out the G-325A correctly because his mastery of English at the time was less than perfect. If you (or someone you know and trust) has a fully functioning copy of Adobe, fill out the form for her in Adobe, save it, and email it to her. Have her print it out, sign it and send it back to you via the super snail mail. You if you dont have the full version of Adobe, you can fill out the form for her, scan it, and email it to her to print out out, sign, and send back to you. It took me 3 attempts to get Ahmed to fill out the form correctly and sign it in the proper places, so I can understand your desire to speed things up. Unforuntately, there arent alot of shortcuts in this whole mess/process, but the end result is worth the trouble.

On the deceased parent issue, I vote mark it on the form as deceased. I imagine if the embassy is going to do their homework about her parents (which is usually not their first concern in my experience), then the death certificate, should be proof enough. I wouldnt sweat the registration of the death issue.

Best of luck. Please feel free to PM if you need help

[Yodrak 7]

FutureMrs and YuAndDan,

Point of clarification: Signing the G-325A on behalf of one's fiance(e) may be fraud, but it isn't visa fraud. Fraudulent use of a visa is not involved here.

Yodrak

..... by signing for your fiancee you are committing visa fraud!

..... that is forgery, and visa fraud.

[Yodrak 7]

pushbrk,

I agree, and more - the G325A itself is of little significance. Like yours, my wife never saw the G-325A that I filled out for her either.

Yodrak

This will be an unpopular answer with some but I must say the signatures on G325a are of little significance. The important signatures for the foreigner are on the visa applications. My wife never saw the completed G325a forms I filed with the I-130 or I-129F and neither did my step-daughter. .....

[bszoom42 0]

Point of clarification: Signing the G-325A on behalf of one's fiance(e) may be fraud, but it isn't visa fraud. Fraudulent use of a visa is not involved here.

Yodrak, thats very interesting. So if I understand you correctly, committing fraud in the process for petitioning for a visa is not visa fraud? I would have thought that fraud on a petition for a visa would fall under 18 USC 1001 False Statements or Entries Generally, which is commonly used for prosecuting visa fraud.

(That's USC TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > § 1001 - Statements or entries generally)

Edited June 7, 2007 by bszoom42

[Yodrak 7]

bszoom,

Many terms are used inappropriately. Using the wrong adjective 'on the street' doesn't mean that fraud isn't fraud and won't be dealt with appropriately.

Yodrak

Point of clarification: Signing the G-325A on behalf of one's fiance(e) may be fraud, but it isn't visa fraud. Fraudulent use of a visa is not involved here.

Yodrak, thats very interesting. So if I understand you correctly, committing fraud in the process for petitioning for a visa is not visa fraud? I would have thought that fraud on a petition for a visa would fall under 18 USC 1001 False Statements or Entries Generally, which is commonly used for prosecuting visa fraud.

(That's USC TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > § 1001 - Statements or entries generally)

[shawnloveskat 0]

I saved the forms in Acrobat Pro as a JPEG file. Since some Russian computers sometimes don't correctly display english acrobat forms, they all recognize JPEG (picture file) I attached the JPEG files to an email and presto- half way around the world in a second.- I then sent my fiancee down to the local internet cafe to print out the completed documents already filled out. Have her sign it and mail it back. Cuts down on half the wait time, and half the shipping cost!!! Good luck

ps if you need a program to do that PM me back

[ariba 0]

Hey Guys,

Was having some dinner... I can handle the truth... Take it easy on me.... Not to worry..

I have not sent in the application yet so no Fraud has been committed. Thanks for the replies...

1. I concur on the Mom's death issue... My Fiancee is somehow convinced that the Embassy is going to check this and cause a problem... Seems like either way the possibility of them checking is very small, but I agree the truth is always the better option.

2. On the signature issue... It seems like a signed scanned copy should be sufficient... But there I go using common sense. I was hoping it might be an easy shortcut and save some time, money and effort.

Thanks for the info.

James & Svetlana

on question 2, you can just leave it blank for not signing it. That's what I did when i sent it on April 30, got my NOA1 May 23. Cross my finger that it should be OK for not getting RFE, at least I haven't gotten one yet with regard to this matter.

actually the USCIS acknowledges this G-325a issue and put this memorandum HQSCOPS 70/6.2.11 on November 1, 2005.

http://www.uscis.gov/files/pressrelease/I1...325A_110105.pdf

In there, they mentioned the fiancee at the beneficiary country can sign the forms later during the interview.