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Hi all!

Me and my boyfriend are planning our future together and we are at the stage of planning wedding. We just don´t know what would be the best option for us. 

Our situation is - I´m currently in the USA on ESTA, my boyfriend (USA citizen) is here with me and in few months he is going abroad for half a year. When it comes to timing, K1 visa would probably work for us. The problem is that after wedding I won´t be able to work or go outside of the USA for 6 months which seems really frustrating. Also the cost for the lawyer is pretty high. We were thinking if it woulnd´t be better to just get married now and apply for AOS. I have heard various views on this - we have been recommended to do it by one lawyer, but the other lawyer said this is since September 2019 considered an entry fraud. 

I wanted to ask you - if you have been in a similar situation - what would you recommend? And do you know anything more about getting married on ESTA? The plan would be that after wedding and before filing AOS, but I´m not sure if we can file AOS while I´m abroad. 

Thank you for your help in advance! 

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2 minutes ago, Honza said:

Hi all!

Me and my boyfriend are planning our future together and we are at the stage of planning wedding. We just don´t know what would be the best option for us. 

Our situation is - I´m currently in the USA on ESTA, my boyfriend (USA citizen) is here with me and in few months he is going abroad for half a year. When it comes to timing, K1 visa would probably work for us. The problem is that after wedding I won´t be able to work or go outside of the USA for 6 months which seems really frustrating. Also the cost for the lawyer is pretty high. We were thinking if it woulnd´t be better to just get married now and apply for AOS. I have heard various views on this - we have been recommended to do it by one lawyer, but the other lawyer said this is since September 2019 considered an entry fraud. 

I wanted to ask you - if you have been in a similar situation - what would you recommend? And do you know anything more about getting married on ESTA? The plan would be that after wedding and before filing AOS, but I´m not sure if we can file AOS while I´m abroad. 

Thank you for your help in advance! 

If you get married now you won't be able to work or leave the USA until you get advance parole (just like what happens to a k1), currently taking about 6 months.  

 

To file AOS you must be in the USA and have entry status to adjust from.  

 

 

YMMV

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It's not fraud if you did not intend to stay upon entry. When you marry or file AOS has no bearing...if the lawyer is trying to refer to any sort of 90 day rule, run...he's trying to scare you.

 

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Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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56 minutes ago, Honza said:

 

Just an advice, lawyer aren't necessary if you don't have any real red flags.  We paid $3000 dollars and we did all the process alone because the lawyers make a lot of mistakes with our information... soooooo.. save your money!! Here in the Visa Journey you will find a lot of information. 

 

Best wishes 

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56 minutes ago, Honza said:

The problem is that after wedding I won´t be able to work or go outside of the USA for 6 months which seems really frustrating.

That is a drawback of the K-1. It's also a drawback of doing AOS on ESTA. That is why CR-1 is recommended:

K-1 and CR-1 comparison by @missileman:

On 6/21/2019 at 6:54 PM, missileman said:

Every couple has their own priorities, and each couple must decide which visa is better for their situation.

K-1
    Slightly faster arrival in the US (currently about 5 months sooner)    
    More expensive than CR-1    
    Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)    
    Spouse can not leave the US until she/he receives approved Advance Parole (approx 5-6 months)    
    Spouse can not work until she/he receives EAD (approx 5-6 months)    
    Some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period    
    Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.

  

CR-1
    Slightly slower arrival in the US (currently about 5 months later)

    Less expensive than K-1    
    No Adjustment of Status(I-485, I-131, I-765) required.    
    Spouse can immediately travel outside the US    
    Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival.    
    Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US    
    Opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport.

    Spouse has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.

 

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Honzo, 

podivej se na srovnani CR-1 visa a K-1 visa 👆

 

I'm doing a K-1 and I can tell you that if a year ago I knew what I know now, I would probably have chosen for the Spouse visa instead of Fiance. However. The good news is that just a little more than 6 months after filing my K-1, I should be receiving my passport with the visa within a couple of days!

 

Hiring a lawyer is unnecessary, unless you've had visa problems or trouble with the law in the past or you are in a complicated marital/personal situation. You can contact an immigration lawyer, pay them a one-time fee for a consultation to assess whether or not your case has any red flags which could be a reason to hire a lawyer. I did this and I can tell you the lawyer was pretty honest about it and told me and my fiancee that we should be able to go through the process without any legal counsel.

 

Good luck!

Edited by jeaniecz

"Life is a journey." At this moment, it's taking me to the USA to the woman I love.

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Moved from K1 Progress Reports to What Visa Do I Need - Family Based Immigration forum.

Our journey:

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September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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***Hijack post removed; if you have your own question, you need to start your own thread.***

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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