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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Hi everyone,

 

My wife and I are slightly concerned. We submitted our completed AOS paperwork to our attorney for his final review/signature/sendoff on 09/03/19 and have yet to receive confirmation from him that he received the packet (thus, it has still not been sent to USCIS). We have an upcoming trip to Denver (10/5) and I am worried about us not receiving the NOA by that time. My wife's I-94 expires 09/18. We of course have a copy of our marriage certificate but at this point that's all. Our attorney has advised in the past that in the event we do not have the NOA in time, he can provide us with a letter to provide to TSA (if they inquire) confirming AOS process has been inititated. My question though is -- is that sufficient? Has anyone had success with this method (atty letter) in the past? Are there still risks posed by us flying domestically with no AOS NOA yet?

 

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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9 minutes ago, Eric Bargemann said:

Hi everyone,

 

My wife and I are slightly concerned. We submitted our completed AOS paperwork to our attorney for his final review/signature/sendoff on 09/03/19 and have yet to receive confirmation from him that he received the packet (thus, it has still not been sent to USCIS). We have an upcoming trip to Denver (10/5) and I am worried about us not receiving the NOA by that time. My wife's I-94 expires 09/18. We of course have a copy of our marriage certificate but at this point that's all. Our attorney has advised in the past that in the event we do not have the NOA in time, he can provide us with a letter to provide to TSA (if they inquire) confirming AOS process has been inititated. My question though is -- is that sufficient? Has anyone had success with this method (atty letter) in the past? Are there still risks posed by us flying domestically with no AOS NOA yet?

 

Your feedback is greatly appreciated.

Why hasn't it been sent?  We got our NOA1 within a week of submission .  There is always a risk.

Edited by payxibka

YMMV

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7 minutes ago, Eric Bargemann said:

Our attorney has advised in the past that in the event we do not have the NOA in time, he can provide us with a letter to provide to TSA (if they inquire) confirming AOS process has been inititated.

Your attorney is wrong........Once the I-94 has expired, your wife is out of status and subject to deportation.......until the I-485 is filed....only the I-797 is evidence of having filed.......It probably won't be an issue with TSA........but CBP is a different matter......

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 minutes ago, missileman said:

Your attorney is wrong........Once the I-94 has expired, your wife is out of status and subject to deportation.......until the I-485 is filed....only the I-797 is evidence of having filed.......It probably won't be an issue with TSA........but CBP is a different matter......

If we're flying just from PHX to DEN, we'd only be passing through TSA. So as long as her foreign passport (which remains current/valid) matches the name on her ticket (which it does), should we be okay?

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4 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Why hasn't it been sent?  We got our NOA1 within a week of submission .  There is always a risk.

We completed everything already, but our attorney still needs to sign the docs himself before he then sends it off to USCIS.

 

You received your NOA1 in 1 week? Whew, so there is hope after all! I was hearing 3-4 week timeframes.

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2 minutes ago, Eric Bargemann said:

If we're flying just from PHX to DEN, we'd only be passing through TSA. So as long as her foreign passport (which remains current/valid) matches the name on her ticket (which it does), should we be okay?

Most do without issue.   However,  the CBP has been known to "hangout" at the TSA checkpoint from time to time 

YMMV

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2 minutes ago, Eric Bargemann said:

If we're flying just from PHX to DEN, we'd only be passing through TSA. So as long as her foreign passport (which remains current/valid) matches the name on her ticket (which it does), should we be okay?

Probably won't be an issue........but this thread is interesting:

 

 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Philippines
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1 minute ago, Eric Bargemann said:

We completed everything already, but our attorney still needs to sign the docs himself before he then sends it off to USCIS.

 

You received your NOA1 in 1 week? Whew, so there is hope after all! I was hearing 3-4 week timeframes.

Been people all over the board, but it is possible 

YMMV

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12 minutes ago, Eric Bargemann said:

he can provide us with a letter to provide to TSA

The TSA has nothing to do with it. The CBP or ICE are the ones you should be worried about. The lawyer's letter means nothing. However, I believe they (CBP/ICE) have the ability to verify that an I-485 is pending for such person. The question is,  if she is stopped and detained, how much time is she gonna spend in detention until someone gets around to verify her status. Could be few hours or few days. In rare circumstances, ICE has actually detained US citizens for weeks/months.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/07/23/francisco-erwin-galicia-ice-cpb-us-citizen-detained-texas/?noredirect=on

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Just spoke with our attorney. He confirmed as long as our AOS has been filed with USCIS (which it will be by the time of our trip), we will be fine. Worst case, if questioned, they'd have to look it up in the system if we didn't receive our NOA yet. The letter from him would be basically just to further support/reinforce that we have already filed AOS/are awaiting the NOA

 

Question answered. Thanks for the input everyone!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
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21 minutes ago, Eric Bargemann said:

Just spoke with our attorney. He confirmed as long as our AOS has been filed with USCIS (which it will be by the time of our trip), we will be fine. Worst case, if questioned, they'd have to look it up in the system if we didn't receive our NOA yet. The letter from him would be basically just to further support/reinforce that we have already filed AOS/are awaiting the NOA

 

Question answered. Thanks for the input everyone!

 This is what can happen if the AOS is delayed..........the OP spent 5 weeks in jail..........I would demand that the AOS be filed asap.

Edited by missileman

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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He isn't charging us anything extra for the letter (if it's even necessary--we could very well have our NOA by then), and confirmed he is indeed filing it ASAP. We have over 3 weeks until the trip so I'm not worried about USCIS receiving the file in that timeframe. The OP in the attached topic had not actually filed AOS yet (was awaiting some tax documents), which is a different circumstance altogether. I was just concerned about not yet having the NOA while AOS was already filed.

 
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