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Posted (edited)
24 minutes ago, E & J 2018 said:

OK, so say the OP files for a divorce, pulls his I-864 and she goes through with a VAWA claim. Is he still responsible for her, as far as immigration issues are concerned (Government financial aid)? I realize spousal support & child support are subject to any marriage and he could definitely have to pay for these items. Especially child support... this is certain.

No - immigration-wise, there is no impact on the claimed abuser. The claimed abuser has no say in the process either (even to refute claims or evidence).

As noted, family court may or may not order support judgements separate from that, but not based on the I-864 (or an I-134 as it is not legally binding).

 

23 minutes ago, Hello729 said:

Thank you.  We are still living in the same house, so I am mostly alone with her.  How do I overcome this problem of not being alone with her?  (Sorry for asking the dumb question).

That's a tough question...I don't have an answer other than to be aware of it and limit the opportunity.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

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AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Hello729 said:

Yes that is correct.  She does not want to go back.

Well we keep on going around in circles, which I why I am expecting VAWA to be the solution.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Posted (edited)

If she was an indonesian, under indonesian law, the baby would be indonesian citizen provided the mother register their marriage in nearest indonesian consulate general/embassy. they would give the baby indonesian passport and she could take him/her with her back home. that would solve the immigration problem if her husband withdraw the petition and she no longer has legal status in the US and has to go home while still having a baby.

Edited by iwir

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Jan 19, 2018: I-129F Packet Sent                                                                                  Nov 2, 2018: Consulate Received                                                                              

Jan 22, 2018: Electronic NOA1 Received                                                                     Nov 6, 2018: Packet 4 Received

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October 30, 2018: NVC Left

 

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Dec 17, 2018: POE                                                                                                                March 5, 2019: Biometrics at ASC in SF

Dec 27, 2018: Apply for SSN                                                                                               March 5, 2019: I-485 and I-765 Status Changed to Fingerprint Review Was Complete 

Jan 11, 2019: Wedding                                                                                                        May 15, 2019: I-485 Status Changed to Case Is Ready to be Scheduled for Interview (New Site Only)

Jan 14, 2019: AOS Preparation Started (1 Year 9 Days Since Starting K1)                May 23, 2019: EAD/AP Approved (97 days since NOA1)

Jan 15, 2019: SSN Card Received                                                                                     December 6, 2019: EAD/AP Renewal sent

Jan 29, 2019: Marriage Certificate Picked Up                                                                 December 9, 2019: EAD/AP Renewal NOA1

Feb 5, 2019: AOS Package Sent                                                                                         December 23, 2019: I-485 Case is Scheduled for Interview (Old Site Only)

Feb 11, 2019: NOA1                                                                                                             January 27, 2020: Interview in San Jose Field Office (Approved)

Feb 19, 2019: NOA1 Received by Mail                                                                              February 3, 2020 : Green Card in Hand

Feb 22, 2019: Biometrics Notification Received by Mail

 

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Nov 2, 2021: ROC Package Sent

Nov 5, 2021: Package delivered

Nov 8, 2021: Text received (WAC)

Nov 9, 2021: Check cashed

Nov 12, 2021: Hard copy of NOA1 received

April 20, 2022: Biometric is waived

Dec 9, 2022: Card is being produced (No interview)

Dec 13, 2022: Case was approved

Dec 16, 2022: GC on hand

 

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Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, iwir said:

If she was an indonesian, under indonesian law, the baby would be indonesian citizen provided the mother register their marriage in nearest indonesian consulate general/embassy. they would give the baby indonesian passport and she could take him/her with her back home.

Under US law, they won't let her leave the US w/ the child without permission of the other parent first. Catch 22...Indonesia's laws are not enforceable while still in the US.

Edited by geowrian

Timelines:

ROC:

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7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted
2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Under US law, they won't let her leave the US w/ the child without permission of the other parent first. Catch 22...Indonesia's laws are not enforceable while still in the US.

true, but at least the baby has dual citizenship, both US and indonesian until they're 21. so the mother can take the baby with her if they have resolved their divorce and the mother wins the custody

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Jan 5, 2018: Preparation Started                                                                                   October 31, 2018: Medical Check Up                                                           

Jan 19, 2018: I-129F Packet Sent                                                                                  Nov 2, 2018: Consulate Received                                                                              

Jan 22, 2018: Electronic NOA1 Received                                                                     Nov 6, 2018: Packet 4 Received

Feb 1, 2018: Hard Copy NOA1 Received                                                                       Dec 6, 2018: Interview (APPROVED!!!)

 Oct 2, 2018: NOA2 (254 DAYS after NOA1) ***No RFE                                             Dec 11, 2018: Visa Received

Oct 16, 2018: NVC Received                                                                                           Dec 17, 2018: POE (11 Months and 12 days since Starting K1)

October 30, 2018: NVC Left

 

AOS | SF Local Office: Done in 357 days

Spoiler

 

Dec 17, 2018: POE                                                                                                                March 5, 2019: Biometrics at ASC in SF

Dec 27, 2018: Apply for SSN                                                                                               March 5, 2019: I-485 and I-765 Status Changed to Fingerprint Review Was Complete 

Jan 11, 2019: Wedding                                                                                                        May 15, 2019: I-485 Status Changed to Case Is Ready to be Scheduled for Interview (New Site Only)

Jan 14, 2019: AOS Preparation Started (1 Year 9 Days Since Starting K1)                May 23, 2019: EAD/AP Approved (97 days since NOA1)

Jan 15, 2019: SSN Card Received                                                                                     December 6, 2019: EAD/AP Renewal sent

Jan 29, 2019: Marriage Certificate Picked Up                                                                 December 9, 2019: EAD/AP Renewal NOA1

Feb 5, 2019: AOS Package Sent                                                                                         December 23, 2019: I-485 Case is Scheduled for Interview (Old Site Only)

Feb 11, 2019: NOA1                                                                                                             January 27, 2020: Interview in San Jose Field Office (Approved)

Feb 19, 2019: NOA1 Received by Mail                                                                              February 3, 2020 : Green Card in Hand

Feb 22, 2019: Biometrics Notification Received by Mail

 

ROC | California Service Center: Done in 410 days

Nov 2, 2021: ROC Package Sent

Nov 5, 2021: Package delivered

Nov 8, 2021: Text received (WAC)

Nov 9, 2021: Check cashed

Nov 12, 2021: Hard copy of NOA1 received

April 20, 2022: Biometric is waived

Dec 9, 2022: Card is being produced (No interview)

Dec 13, 2022: Case was approved

Dec 16, 2022: GC on hand

 

📊 I-751 November 2021 Filers Google Sheet 📅

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vonQCJgs9HODO2Y1DdSs3HNyL_FRnMfenlIeDQAUpWg/edit#gid=806913795

 

 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Posted
16 minutes ago, implife said:

Dude, sorry to point out the obvious, but you have made mistakes, and you are about to make more mistakes and make things worse for yourself. Again, talk to a therapist. Hire a good lawyer. Have a professional tell you what to do. Don't ask for support or advice from random strangers (us). Your problems go well beyond immigration problems. 

P.S. Nobody is casting any stones at you. A lot of us have been in similar predicaments, and had to find a way out.

Thank you.  I am trying to find a way out.  However, all I see is black holes everywhere.  I have thought about suicide because the pain is too great to bear.  

Thank you so much, everyone!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Posted

Wins custody and has permission to emigrate, which is possible just not very likely unless the Father approves.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Hello729 said:

Thank you.  We are still living in the same house, so I am mostly alone with her.  How do I overcome this problem of not being alone with her?  (Sorry for asking the dumb question).

THIS.

Every relationship  is different,especially  with different  cultures. Marriages take two to work with a baby coming a good compromise  is best 

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Ukraine
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Posted

The reasonable course of action of when people have irreconcilable differences:

  • Talk to your wife, and discuss things. All of the things.
  • Start couple therapy/talk to professional
  • If the child matters to you as you say, then it might be more reasonable let your wife get conditional green card, but it will mean you are locked into I-864
  • Go on with a divorce if things cannot fixed, use a lawyer, then have a joint custody, where child at least gets to know both parents, regardless which one has physical custody.
  • Both of you move on with your lives in US, staying civil with each other as you will have a child in common.
  • Ex-wife will eventually file I-751 with divorce waiver, it should not be an issue, and won't be your problem.

From child's point of view, going by limited and one sided information that was provided that, to me, seems like best course of action. Withdrawing I-864 in secret, while sharing house, and staying married is shady and indeed "vindictive" 

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Posted
1 minute ago, Shawn and sha said:

Every relationship  is different,especially  with different  cultures. Marriages take two to work with a baby coming a good compromise  is best 

I agree you.  What’s sad is that she is not that type of person.  It’s true that you don’t know the person until you’re married to them.  I wish I had listened to this advice and your advice from day one.

Thank you so much, everyone!

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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Posted

Going through with obtaining Permanent Residency  in this case would be both Fraud and more importantly a breach of the VJ ToS.

 

Filing a Divorce waiver with no evidence seems a somewhat long shot.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: China
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Posted
6 minutes ago, Shiran said:

The reasonable course of action of when people have irreconcilable differences:

  • Talk to your wife, and discuss things. All of the things.
  • Start couple therapy/talk to professional
  • If the child matters to you as you say, then it might be more reasonable let your wife get conditional green card, but it will mean you are locked into I-864
  • Go on with a divorce if things cannot fixed, use a lawyer, then have a joint custody, where child at least gets to know both parents, regardless which one has physical custody.
  • Both of you move on with your lives in US, staying civil with each other as you will have a child in common.
  • Ex-wife will eventually file I-751 with divorce waiver, it should not be an issue, and won't be your problem.

From child's point of view, going by limited and one sided information that was provided that, to me, seems like best course of action. Withdrawing I-864 in secret, while sharing house, and staying married is shady and indeed "vindictive" 

So if we go this route, will I have to be bounded by the affidavit of support when we are divorced down the line?  (Sorry for asking dumb question)

Thank you so much, everyone!

DD5B56DF-4C70-4A4F-A074-C72EA2413B5E.jpeg

 

 

Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Ukraine
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Posted
1 minute ago, Hello729 said:

So if we go this route, will I have to be bounded by the affidavit of support when we are divorced down the line?  (Sorry for asking dumb question)

Yes. Until she becomes a citizen, or gets enough credit for legally working. 

 
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